"The cat was telling me—I was just the one writing it down."

This episode is sponsored-in-part by Maddie's Fund, The Animal Rights Foundation, and The Underfoot Podcast.

What if there were a scientifically validated system to help shy, fearful, or traumatized cats become adoptable and happy? In this eye-opening episode, Dr. Jacklyn Ellis, Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and Director of Behavior at the Toronto Humane Society, sits down with host Stacy LeBaron to share her groundbreaking work in feline behavior and welfare. With a PhD in animal welfare and a passion ignited in second grade, Dr. Ellis has built a career helping cats communicate their needs through data-driven insights.

At the heart of the conversation is Dr. Ellis's revolutionary ordinal rating scale system, used to assess behaviors like food intake, response to petting, and play participation. She explains how this simple yet powerful tool not only improves individual case outcomes but also transforms how shelters approach feline care on a larger scale. Hear about whimsical enrichment rooms sponsored by brands, the unique challenges of conflict aggression, and why indoor-only cats need enrichment just as much as their outdoor counterparts.

If you're working with "in-betweener" cats—those that sit on the fence between adoptable and feral—this episode is packed with tools, inspiration, and insights to turn passion into meaningful outcomes.

Press Play Now For:

• The backstory behind Dr. Ellis's career in feline behavior
• How the Toronto Humane Society tracks and improves cat welfare
• The power of data in managing behavioral interventions
• Creative enrichment solutions that benefit both cats and adopters
• The truth about barn cat programs and their perception in urban areas
• Dealing with tough cases like conflict aggression and "dive bombing" cats
• How to help indoor-only cats live their best lives

Resources & Links:

• Feline Behavioral Ordinal Rating Scale Training (Free Course)
• Toronto Humane Society
• Dr. Ellis's research publications

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