I'm back with Rev. Angela Denker, discussing antifascist faith under pressure. Angela names the misogyny threaded through white Christian nationalism—from “submission” theology to the contempt aimed at women who refuse it—and explains why the killing of Renee Good landed as specifically gendered terror. We talk about the double-bind of ministry: how churches can be both sites of harassment and, in places like Minneapolis, hubs of women-led resistance and care.

Then I ask Angela to “translate” an antifascist Jesus for nonreligious young people by riffing on familiar parables—the Prodigal Son, Workers in the Vineyard, and the Talents—as lessons about mercy, economic fairness, and the moral danger of hoarding. The conversation turns to the hardest question: where nonviolence meets its limits, and how Lutheran traditions wrestle with power, resistance, and the realities of state violence.

I close with reflections on Bishop Rob Hirschfeld’s call for clergy to “get their affairs in order” and what that kind of embodied witness implies about capitalism, solidarity, and the spiritual scar tissue we carry.

Notes:

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• (00:00:08) - Mother and Minister in Minneapolis
• (00:02:03) - White Christian Nationalism
• (00:04:32) - Building Ministry Away from Misogyny
• (00:10:19) - The Prodigal Son
• (00:12:12) - Workers in the Vineyard
• (00:13:47) - Parable of the Talents
• (00:18:27) - Jesus and the Problem of Nonviolence
• (00:28:16) - Hirschfeld's Advice to the Christian Clergy
• (00:33:44) - Theological Scar Tissue