Behind the bans and restrictions on abortion and trans healthcare is a desire to control bodily autonomy and enforce rigid gender roles. With colleagues who provide care to transgender patients being doxxed and threatened perhaps more than abortion care providers right now, Bev and Jonas sought the insight of the ACLU’s Chase Strangio, the first openly trans lawyer to argue in front of the Supreme Court. Chase illuminates our shared struggle, reminds us of the history of queer joy in the face of oppression, and offers inspiration to anyone who might be hesitant to stand up for their community in the public square.

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You’ve probably heard podcaster and radio star Hillary Frank tell a story on This American Life or her podcast The Longest Shortest Time. But none quite like this one. Just in time for spooky season, Bev and Jonas talk to Frank about her new audiobook, Wed Locked, a thriller built on the pressures of women to smile through their pain. She talks to Bev and Jonas about the dynamics between couples in choosing reproductive healthcare, and the dangers of simply staying strong and powering through when doctors and those around us don’t see our suffering. No spoilers here, but Bev and Jonas got hooked as powerfully as a tenaculum does its job.

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Despite what it feels like when social media serves up an expensive cure-all for an ever growing list of symptoms, menopause shouldn’t be a secret to be discovered while doomscrolling in bed. Omisade Burney-Scott, Founder of the Black Girls Guide to Surviving Menopause, uses the power of narrative to envision a world where people are never alone on their journey: where your doctor, your friends, your family, and community awareness all play an important role. Bev and Jonas’s conversation with Omisade confirms that she is the “Empress of Bright Ideas” the world needs right now.

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Lawyer and author Jennifer Weiss-Wolf describes the experience of menopause as entering her “no f%#ks left to give era” and embracing the power many feel in this stage of life. As a public policy expert on reproductive health, she testified at the first congressional hearing dedicated to menopause in Washington, DC on September 16th. Bev and Jonas get the scoop on how she builds support for new legislation from woefully-misinformed congresspeople with patience and pragmatism. Her new book “When in Menopause: A User’s Manual and Citizen’s Guide” comes out on October 6th, and offers multiple paths to advocacy that match individual strengths.

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Reproductive health care touches multiple decades and events in a patient’s lifetime. So why not get care from a provider who was there when you got your first period, sprained your ankle in college sports, or was there when you gave birth? Bev and Jonas talk with the amazing Dr. Robin Wallace about providing abortions as a family physician and why more medical specialties should do the same. Based on years practicing in multiple states before and after Dobbs, she helps untangle the complex web of policies and paperwork that make it harder for medical professionals to offer abortion to patients already coming to them for other care.

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As Dr. Ghazaleh Moayedi declares, no one should have pain with IUD insertion. In this wild and wildly instructive episode, Bev and Jonas break down the actual steps of the infamously painful procedure and then dive into solutions with Dr. Moayedi, an OB-Gyn whose reputation as a provider of the “Best IUD insertion in Texas” leads to a mini gameshow challenge to rate pain relief options. This conversation is a huge win for anyone who has or wants an intrauterine device for control of their reproductive health, especially patients who have ever felt gaslit by providers about their lived experience.

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It’s no wonder that the podcast The Retrievals was launched by true crime favorites Serial Productions and the NYT. As host Susan Burton tells Bev and Jonas on Outlawed, the first season of the hit show underscored how women’s pain in IVF treatments intersected with a criminal investigation. The original perpetrator was stopped, but what was uncovered about how pain is perceived and treated or ignored affects every aspect of reproductive healthcare. In this two episode series on pain with IUD insertion, Bev and Jonas make full use of Susan Burton’s investigative journalist’s practiced lens to examine the complex dynamics between doctor and patient, pain and the perception of pain, and how doctors and patients can use language and take actions together for patient comfort.

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Season 3 is coming your way with new episodes every week starting September 10th! We start the season talking about pain: interviewing Susan Burton (host and producer of The Retrievals) and Dr. Ghazeleh Moayedi, founder of Pegasus Health Justice center. Together we dive into the topic of pain and how we can better address it. We’ll have a series about the challenges of training Ob-Gyn’s in the wake of the Dobbs decision. We talk with trans rights super-hero - Chase Strangio of the ACLU- about the overlap between the attacks on trans health and abortion rights. And we’ll continue to interview folks telling us the stories and explaining the science of abortion bans in the US.