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Outlawed

Outlawed

By: Beverly Gray & Jonas Swartz
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Summary

In the wild west of abortion bans and restrictions, patients, families, and their doctors are being treated like outlaws. OB-Gyns and abortion care providers Bev and Jonas embrace the American tradition of fighting injustice by sharing their direct line to what’s actually happening in our homes and medical offices.


Each episode’s powerful stories, experts, and resources help us grasp the aftermath of outlawing healthcare and how to talk about it with the people you know. Even with Uncle Bob. Especially with Uncle Bob.


Brought to you by Dr. Beverly Gray, Dr. Jonas Swartz, and Jane Marie’s Little Everywhere.

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Episodes
  • Making magic in dark times
    Oct 29 2026

    Behind the bans and restrictions on abortion and trans healthcare is a desire to control bodily autonomy and enforce rigid gender roles. With colleagues who provide care to transgender patients being doxxed and threatened perhaps more than abortion care providers right now, Bev and Jonas sought the insight of the ACLU’s Chase Strangio, the first openly trans lawyer to argue in front of the Supreme Court. Chase illuminates our shared struggle, reminds us of the history of queer joy in the face of oppression, and offers inspiration to anyone who might be hesitant to stand up for their community in the public square.

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    40 mins
  • When reproductive justice becomes a thriller
    Oct 22 2026

    You’ve probably heard podcaster and radio star Hillary Frank tell a story on This American Life or her podcast The Longest Shortest Time. But none quite like this one. Just in time for spooky season, Bev and Jonas talk to Frank about her new audiobook, Wed Locked, a thriller built on the pressures of women to smile through their pain. She talks to Bev and Jonas about the dynamics between couples in choosing reproductive healthcare, and the dangers of simply staying strong and powering through when doctors and those around us don’t see our suffering. No spoilers here, but Bev and Jonas got hooked as powerfully as a tenaculum does its job.

    Learn more about Hillary's book Wedlocked here.

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    34 mins
  • The Empress of Bright Ideas
    Oct 8 2026

    Despite what it feels like when social media serves up an expensive cure-all for an ever growing list of symptoms, menopause shouldn’t be a secret to be discovered while doomscrolling in bed. Omisade Burney-Scott, Founder of the Black Girls Guide to Surviving Menopause, uses the power of narrative to envision a world where people are never alone on their journey: where your doctor, your friends, your family, and community awareness all play an important role. Bev and Jonas’s conversation with Omisade confirms that she is the “Empress of Bright Ideas” the world needs right now.

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    30 mins
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