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Outlawed

Outlawed

By: Beverly Gray & Jonas Swartz
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In the wild west of abortion bans and restrictions, patients, families, and their doctors are being treated like outlaws. OB-Gyns and abortion care providers Bev and Jonas embrace the American tradition of fighting injustice by sharing their direct line to what’s actually happening in our homes and medical offices.


Each episode’s powerful stories, experts, and resources help us grasp the aftermath of outlawing healthcare and how to talk about it with the people you know. Even with Uncle Bob. Especially with Uncle Bob.


Brought to you by Dr. Beverly Gray, Dr. Jonas Swartz, and Jane Marie’s Little Everywhere.

© 2026 Outlawed
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Episodes
  • 4 years later: Why learn about abortion? (re-run from season 1)
    Jun 24 2026

    As we reflect on the 4 year anniversary of the Dobbs decision, we wanted to go back and share our very first episode of the podcast from Fall of 2024.

    We introduce you to our hosts, Dr. Beverly Gray and Dr. Jonas Swartz, along with a woman named Sally, a nurse who answers the phone at an abortion clinic and is the first point of contact for those seeking care in North Carolina.

    Whether you’ve broached a topic like abortion with Uncle Bob or are about to, we want to hear from you! Call our new hotline: 919-442-8101. That’s 919-442-8101. Power on! (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.)

    Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.
    Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: outlawedpodcast@gmail.com
    For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/
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    29 mins
  • Conversation Mode: Power On!
    Jun 11 2026

    Summer’s here and it’s time for Outlawed’s season 2 finale! Bev and Jonas reflect on the podcast’s original goals of making it easier to have those tough conversations about abortion, and highlight some of the best advice from show guests so far to spark your confidence at poolside gatherings and backyard barbecues. Plus, hear what we have in store for the September launch of season 3.

    Whether you’ve broached a topic like abortion with Uncle Bob or are about to, we want to hear from you! Call our new hotline: 919-442-8101. That’s 919-442-8101. Power on! (The voicemail will cut you off at 3 min, just FYI. Feel free to leave a second message.)

    Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.
    Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: outlawedpodcast@gmail.com
    For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/
    Sign up for our substack newsletter here.

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    22 mins
  • Is adoption an alternative to abortion?
    May 28 2026

    Many people we know and love are adopted or have adopted, but where adoption fits into a reproductive justice framework is nuanced and complex. Dr. Gretchen Sisson, a researcher at Advancing New Standards in Reproductive Health (ANSIRH) at UCSF, has been studying adoption systems and interviewing birth mothers for over a decade. In this moving conversation she dispels myths about abortion, adoption, and the choice to parent, and advocates for an eyes-wide-open approach to positive change.

    Want to make a tax-deductible donation to support our work and keep us ad-free? Link to donate here.
    Have an idea for a guest or a topic? Email us here: outlawedpodcast@gmail.com
    For Outlawed merch: https://outlawedpodcast.com/merch/

    Sign up for our substack newsletter here.

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    44 mins
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