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Zero Click Marketing

Zero Click Marketing

By: Amanda Natividad
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Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro, the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.Amanda Natividad Economics Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • AI Doesn't Just Create Demand. It Nurtures It.
    Jun 30 2026

    In this Field Notes episode, Amanda looks at new research from Similarweb on the downstream impact of AI visibility, plus Seer Interactive’s argument that AI visibility isn’t just an SEO issue — it also affects paid media, brand, and attribution.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Why AI visibility is creating a new attribution problem
    01:30 What Similarweb found: AI-recommended brands saw more downstream visits
    03:00 Why the traffic often shows up as branded search, not AI referral traffic
    04:45 Branded search as a “receipt” for upstream marketing
    06:00 Why AI may not create demand, but move or nurture it
    07:30 The four roles of AI visibility: create, capture, nurture, protect
    10:30 Why AI visibility can’t live only with SEO
    12:00 What marketers should track beyond referral traffic
    14:00 The Zero Click Marketing takeaway: the most important touchpoint may be the one analytics never sees

    Links Mentioned:

    Similarweb: The Downstream Impact of AI Visibility
    Rand Fishkin / SparkToro: New Research from Similarweb: How AI Brand Mentions Influence Direct Visits & Traditional Search Queries
    Seer Interactive: Your SEO Team Is Building AI Visibility. Paid Media Should Be Too

    Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co

    Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

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    14 mins
  • What If AI Visibility Is a Mirror?
    Jun 23 2026

    When AI puts your brand in the wrong category or compares you to the wrong competitors, it's tempting to dismiss it as a hallucination. But what if AI's mistakes reveal something about how the market understands you? I suggest why AI visibility isn't merely a score. It's a mirror.

    This episode pairs nicely with my May episode, "GEO Is What Happens When Search Becomes Zero Click." :)

    Timestamps:

    00:00 — Why AI visibility is becoming an executive question
    01:34 — AI visibility as a mirror
    03:15 — Testing HubSpot’s AEO Grader with SparkToro as an example
    05:04 — What a messy competitive set can reveal
    06:21 — AI visibility meets positioning
    10:27 — Warning: vanity metrics
    12:05 — Three buckets for evaluating your results
    14:38 — Turning visibility gaps into marketing priorities
    17:11 — A practical AI visibility playbook
    19:22 — What the mirror can teach you

    This episode is sponsored by HubSpot. You can try their free AEO Grader for yourself!

    Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co

    Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

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    21 mins
  • Public Speaking is the Ultimate Zero-Click Marketing (with Jay Acunzo)
    Jun 16 2026

    What if the best marketing doesn’t drive a click at all — but makes people seek you out?
    I chat with Jay Acunzo about why public speaking might be the ultimate form of zero click marketing, how to build ideas that actually matter to your audience, and why resonance beats reach when you’re trying to create work people remember.

    Jay breaks down how to build stronger arguments for your ideas, why commodity content has such a short shelf life, and what it really means to matter more instead of simply marketing more.

    Timestamps:
    00:00 — Jay’s core idea: don’t market more, matter more
    02:26 — Why every talk needs to create a real shift, not just a to-do list
    04:24 — Jay’s “unsolicited response rate” metric
    06:00 — Reach vs. resonance, and why making people care is the actual job
    07:46 — Amanda’s coaching session with Jay and the missing “problem” in her talk
    08:47 — Why marketers need to slow down and develop ideas that matter
    14:21 — Creativity as trial and error, not instant genius
    17:22 — Asking questions Google can’t answer
    20:52 — Amanda’s favorite newsletter and useful zero-click content
    22:38 — Michelle Warner as an example of a zero-click business
    28:55 — How platforms reward lowest-common-denominator content
    30:16 — Why speaking gives you control that social platforms don’t
    34:48 — Jay’s podcast, *Why They Resonate*, and Amanda’s upcoming appearance

    Connect with Jay Acunzo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jayacunzo/
    Learn more about Jay Acunzo: https://jayacunzo.com/
    Sign up for Jay’s Newsletter: https://jayacunzo.com/newsletter
    Listen to Why They Resonate: https://open.spotify.com/show/2xMty2O4GBcG8F7ySudeXl

    Learn more: zeroclickmarketing.co

    Connect with Amanda Natividad (@amandanat): LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Threads

    This episode was produced in partnership with Share Your Genius
    www.shareyourgenius.com

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    36 mins
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