Episodes

  • 0713 | Houston

    0713 | Houston
    Feb 17 2026
    The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder travels and some new and unsettling information on the Azle bank robbery.

    This episode was written, researched, and produced by Jordan Taylor.
    With editing and writing by Josh Hallmark.
    Additional research assistance by: Michelle Tooker.

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    SOURCES
    • Houston Police Department Casefile, Case #030249612
    • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/12/12
    • Harris County Office of Forensic Sciences Report 12-0671
    • Houston Fire Department Report 12-0680736
    • HOUSTON, TX Weather History | Weather underground. (n.d.). https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KHOU/date/2012-3-9
    • Pinkerton, J. (2014, April 5). HPD sergeant fired, 7 other disciplined in murder case probe. Chon. Retrieved May 26, 2025, from https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/HPD-sergeant-fired-7-others-disciplined-in-5377253.php
    • Pearson, L. (n.d.). Who came up with HPD’s “SL” code that suspended 264K cases? Panel identifies former assistant chief. https://abc13.com/amp/post/houston-police-suspended-cases-what-is-sl-code-lack-of-personnel-donald-mckinney/14822151/
    • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/10/2012
    • James E. Lankford. (2011). Peak DB SPL of various Firearms (5 Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
    • In J Am Acad Audiology (Vol. 22, pp. 93–103). https://www.caohc.org/UserFiles/fileShot%20of%20Prevention%20extra%20handout.pdf
    • Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
    • Azele Police Dept Case # 2012-961

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie, Melissa Tracchia.

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    46 mins
  • 0712 | Couples, Part 2

    0712 | Couples, Part 2
    Feb 2 2026
    A case the team has been looking into for over four years, makes its podcast debut; where a crime in an Israel Keyes hotspot eerily matches a chapter from one of his favorite books.

    This episode was written, researched, and produced by Michelle Tooker.
    Additional research, editing, and writing by Josh Hallmark.
    Research assistance by: Shana Wilensky and Jordan Taylor.

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    SOURCES
    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/unsolved-jeffrey-mitchell-murder-sacramento-17382062.php
    https://www.facebook.com/share/1GyTUQpCYZ/
    https://www.dailydemocrat.com/2006/10/29/link-between-van-deputy-explored/?clearUserState=true
    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/crime/unsolved-california-wife-of-murdered-deputy-shares-her-hope-for-justice-and-how-she-keeps-jeffrey-mitchells-legacy-alive/103-9e1af8e8-984b-4c1a-b69f-ec7cc64b9e85
    https://ohp.parks.ca.gov/listedresources/detail/575
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238696800/jeffrey\_vaughn-mitchell
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article2581679.html
    https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767
    https://unresolved.me/deputy-jeffrey-mitchell
    https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/sacramento-county-woman-vanished-2010-homicide-suspect-arrested/
    https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/sacbee/name/allan-shubert-obituary?id=13658767

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie.

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    39 mins
  • July 10, 2012

    July 10, 2012
    Jan 26 2026
    Josh is out sick and snowed in this week. So, in lieu of a new episode, we're sharing the entirety of the July 10, 2012 FBI interview with Keyes - which has been critical in our work this season. Topics include: The Deschutes attack, Keyes's first murder, the victim ruled accidental, his time in the Army, murders on his boat, and more.

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    2 hrs and 27 mins
  • 0711 | Infrastructure

    0711 | Infrastructure
    Jan 19 2026
    Josh and the team discuss how Israel Keyes used infrastructure maps to scout, hide and/or bury his caches and victims. This may just be the key to solving his crimes.

    This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
    With additional research by Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, and Michelle Tooker.
    This episode featured Kathy Nation, Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Shana Wilensky.

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    Music by: Sonic Yard.
    Featured music by: The Foundry Field Recordings

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Dan del Rossi, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie.

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    44 mins
  • True Crime Conversations: Amanda Jacobson, Charlie Worroll, Josh Hallmark (Ad-free & Early)

    True Crime Conversations: Amanda Jacobson, Charlie Worroll, Josh Hallmark (Ad-free & Early)
    Dec 17 2025
    For the month of December, True Crime creators are getting together for conversations about podcasting, true crime, and the nexus between the two. We’ll discuss creating our shows, behind-the-scenes moments, fears and hopes, the cases that have gripped us, and more.

    In this conversation Amanda (Wine & Crime), Charlie (Crimelines), and Josh (True Crime Bullsh**) discuss: friendships in podcasting, war stories from the road, podcast advice, feeling misunderstood, weird purchases, pop culture, and more.

    Enjoy this conversation and be sure to check out the rest:

    • Jessie (Love Murder), Bob (Buried), Joshua (Somewhere in the Pines)
    • Javier (Pretend), Kristen (Murder, She Told), Shaun (Sins & Survivors)
    • Patrick (True Crime Obsessed), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Eric (True Consequences)
    • Gillian (True Crime Obsessed), Alvin (Affirmative Murder), Lanie (True Crime Cases with Lanie)
    • Robin (The Trail Went Cold), Nina (Already Gone), John (Sins & Survivors)
    • Aaron (Generation Why), Lucy (Wine & Crime), Kristen (Murder, She Told)
    • Amanda (Wine & Crime), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Andie (Love Murder), Charlie (Crimelines)

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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • True Crime Conversations: Eric Carter-Landin, Patrick Hinds, Josh Hallmark

    True Crime Conversations: Eric Carter-Landin, Patrick Hinds, Josh Hallmark
    Dec 16 2025
    For the month of December, True Crime creators are getting together for conversations about podcasting, true crime, and the nexus between the two. We’ll discuss creating our shows, behind-the-scenes moments, fears and hopes, the cases that have gripped us, and more.

    In this conversation we discuss: gay podcasting, advocacy and compassion in podcasting, dick pics, criticism, the genesis of our shows, our favorite podcasts of the year, and more.

    Enjoy this conversation and be sure to check out the rest:

    • Jessie (Love Murder), Bob (Buried), Joshua (Somewhere in the Pines)
    • Javier (Pretend), Kristen (Murder, She Told), Shaun (Sins & Survivors)
    • Patrick (True Crime Obsessed), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Eric (True Consequences)
    • Gillian (True Crime Obsessed), Alvin (Affirmative Murder), Lanie (True Crime Cases with Lanie)
    • Robin (The Trail Went Cold), Nina (Already Gone), John (Sins & Survivors)
    • Aaron (Generation Why), Lucy (Wine & Crime), Kristen (Murder, She Told)
    • Amanda (Wine & Crime), Josh (True Crime Bullsh**), Andie (Love Murder), Charlie (Crimelines)

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    48 mins
  • 0710 | Undercurrent

    0710 | Undercurrent
    Dec 12 2025
    Josh and team dissect various information and semantics surrounding Keyes's male-female couple. They circle back to Eugene Hyatt and Kami Vollendroff, and then deep-dive the disappearance of a Spokane couple. Then new information from a friend of Keyes gives the team a new perspective not on just the male-female couple and the vicitm ruled accidental, but potentially all of Keyes's unknown victims.

    This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
    With research by: Kathleen S. and Jordan Taylor

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    RESOURCES
    • NAMUS
    • The Charley Project
    • Pacificorps.com
    • LowImpacthydro.org
    • Damsafety.org
    • The Washington state digital archives
    • The Spokesman Review


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    Music by: William Hellfire, Radical Face, Sergey Cheremisinov, Whithe, and Sero.
    Featured music by: Patrick Watson

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie.

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    38 mins
  • 0709 | Kootenai

    0709 | Kootenai
    Dec 2 2025
    The FBI releases some surprising new information obtained from Keyes, including more maps. Josh begins connecting a handful of those maps to facts, theories, tips, and potential victims.

    This episode was written, researched, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
    With research by: Jordan Taylor, Michelle Tooker, and Kathleen S.

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    RESOURCES
    NAMUS
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    Music by: LaBon.
    Featured music by: Sarah Belkner

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Lydia Rodarte Quayle, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Zack Ignatowicz Warren, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Asch Fish, Becky C, Pink, JenJ, Corey D, Robin, Carol, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, Lauren Ferri, Emily Payne, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Megan Inman, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen, Justin Runion, Trixie.

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    33 mins