Episodes

  • July 12, 2012, part 2

    July 12, 2012, part 2
    Jun 24 2026
    In the second half of Israel Keyes's 7/12 FBI interview, he discusses trophies, burglaries, arsons, following other serial killers, the women he dated, the relationship between his violent crimes and arsons and robberies, and more. This audio will be incredibly important in season 7 of TCB, launching October 5.

    10th Anniversary Retreat
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    TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026

    TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • July 12, 2012, part 1

    July 12, 2012, part 1
    Jun 15 2026
    In this interview, Keyes discusses the Texas and Eagle River caches, blood on his boat, sex workers, cemeteries, Ted Bundy, Dean Koontz, his time in Texas, and more.
    Part 2 will be out on June 21.

    TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026

    TROVA TRIP to Galápagos Islands
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027

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    1 hr and 3 mins
  • Retrospective 1: The Ignition

    Retrospective 1: The Ignition
    Jun 5 2026
    To celebrate 10 years in podcasting, we're spending the summer going back in time and both highlighting key episodes and telling the stories behind them; you’ll get new behind-the-scenes information about what was happening in life, in various investigations, and in the world that impacted these important episodes and their podcasts. You’ll learn how Josh started podcasting, how he started investigating Israel Keyes, some hilarious and terrifying stories from the road, and some really vulnerable and personal stories.

    We start our first retrospective at, duh, the beginning. Josh shares how both his podcasting journey and Keyes obsession began. He discusses his time in Seattle and on the Olympic Peninsula, how he ended up on the East Coast, his first deep-dive investigation (not Keyes) and how that led to his second (Keyes).

    And this kicks off an early episode of his very first show, Our Americana, entitled Van Life.

    TROVA TRIP to The Galapagos Islands:
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027

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    1 hr and 26 mins
  • The Butterfly Effect: Identifying the Does, one case at a time

    The Butterfly Effect: Identifying the Does, one case at a time
    May 28 2026
    Every year over 4,000 unidentified bodies are recovered in the United States. 600,000 people are reported as missing, and thousands more go unreported. The Butterfly Effect is an investigative podcast that seeks to reunite the nameless with their identities.

    Subscribe to The Butterfly Effect

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    24 mins
  • October 22, 2012: Part 2

    October 22, 2012: Part 2
    May 21 2026
    In the second half of this interview, Keyes shares his thoughts on other serial killers like BTK, Ted Bundy, and The Green River Killer. Then he discusses his plans for the future, losing control, and how the facade of his life was moving further and further away from who he really was. He also goes into detail regarding the New York victim, the Curriers, breaking into homes, arsons, and fatherhood... and public art.

    TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026

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    47 mins
  • October 22, 2012: Part 1

    October 22, 2012: Part 1
    May 18 2026
    In this interview, Keyes discusses publicity and strategy, the impacts of his crimes on his family, searching for remains, the NY victim, lies he's told about his time in Texas, and serial killers he's read about and studied.

    TROVA TRIP to Costa Rica
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    1 hr and 16 mins
  • 0714 | Changes

    0714 | Changes
    Mar 19 2026
    Season finale.
    TCB will be back in October.

    This episode was written, researched, edited, and produced by Josh Hallmark.
    With additional research by Michelle Tooker, Shana Wilensky, and Jordan Taylor.

    Sources include:
    • KARK.com
    • 4029TV.com
    • The Northwest Arkansas Democrat Gazette

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    This episode was made possible by the following Patreon producers:
    Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, Sara Cee, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Virginia Williams, Carrie, Jeff, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Melissa Tracchia, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Troccola, Trixie

    To support the investigation, go to www.patreon.com/studiobothand

    This episode included music by:
    Whithe, Sero, LaBon, and Sergey Cheremisinov
    With featured music by: Sigur Ros

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    43 mins
  • 0713 | Houston

    0713 | Houston
    Feb 17 2026
    The team returns to Texas to look at a case, which Jordan has been following for four years, that involves a suspicious death, an arson, and an abandoned house. And this case may just shed light on some of Keyes's odder travels and some new and unsettling information on the Azle bank robbery.

    This episode was written, researched, and produced by Jordan Taylor.
    With editing and writing by Josh Hallmark.
    Additional research assistance by: Michelle Tooker.

    TROVA TRIP TO COSTA RICA:
    https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026

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    SOURCES
    • Houston Police Department Casefile, Case #030249612
    • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/12/12
    • Harris County Office of Forensic Sciences Report 12-0671
    • Houston Fire Department Report 12-0680736
    • HOUSTON, TX Weather History | Weather underground. (n.d.). https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/KHOU/date/2012-3-9
    • Pinkerton, J. (2014, April 5). HPD sergeant fired, 7 other disciplined in murder case probe. Chon. Retrieved May 26, 2025, from https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/HPD-sergeant-fired-7-others-disciplined-in-5377253.php
    • Pearson, L. (n.d.). Who came up with HPD’s “SL” code that suspended 264K cases? Panel identifies former assistant chief. https://abc13.com/amp/post/houston-police-suspended-cases-what-is-sl-code-lack-of-personnel-donald-mckinney/14822151/
    • FBI interview with Israel Keyes: 07/10/2012
    • James E. Lankford. (2011). Peak DB SPL of various Firearms (5 Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
    • In J Am Acad Audiology (Vol. 22, pp. 93–103). https://www.caohc.org/UserFiles/fileShot%20of%20Prevention%20extra%20handout.pdf
    • Miyara, F. (n.d.). A NOTE ON FIRECRACKER’S NOISE. https://www.fceia.unr.edu.ar/acustica/biblio/firecr1.htm
    • Azele Police Dept Case # 2012-961

    Patreon producers: Amy Basil, Kendall C., Asch Fish, Heather Horton-Whedon, Sherri D, Kirsten Hoffman, Dale Akstin, Stephanie Taylor, Drew Vipond, Amelia Hancock, Christina Sisson, Nicole & Dennis Henry, Jillian Natale, Lana Halladay, Rural Juror, Tuesdi Woodworth, Kathleen S, Annette L, Casey Jensen-Richardson, SC, Benjamin Cioppa-Fong, Trista, Nichole, Pink, JenJ, Robin, Carol, H Beth Jones, Michelle, Jordan M, Kate Lussier, John Comrie, Kathy Nation, Carrie, Jordan T, Bethany, David Begley, Ally, Lauren Ferri, Chris S, Tori Myers, Sabrina Abbott, Meaghan Daigle, Ashley Kuplin, Michael Randall, DeWayne C, Jen Trocola, Trixie, Melissa Tracchia.

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    46 mins