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For Real, Though

For Real, Though

By: Tina Muir Ryan Montgomery
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Summary
 Join Ryan and Tina as they explore their friendship, training journeys, and aspirations in ultra running, marathons, and trail racing. This podcast sets the tone for an authentic, deep, and sometimes humorous look at their lives and goals.Copyright © Running for Real 2026 Relationships Running & Jogging Social Sciences
Episodes
  • Episode 2: Team Notification Center or Team No Notifications

    Episode 2: Team Notification Center or Team No Notifications
    Oct 30 2026
    Tina and Ryan start with the response to the first episode, then close the loop on Tina's backpack. They cover their New York City Marathon weekend, Ryan's 24-hour world record attempt, backyard ultras, and what it's like to negotiate sponsorships. They finish with their weekly icks, which turn out to be about notifications and text messages. Topics How the launch landed (4:14). Ryan says the feedback has been warm. What came up most was how much listeners liked Tina and Ryan's relationship. Ryan says he mostly wanted people to see it. Closing the loop on Tina's backpack (4:50). After last week's episode, Tina felt self-conscious about her backpack and put it through the wash. Ryan and Tina disagree on whether it's "disgusting" or "just has a lot going on." She cleared out old bag tags, wrappers and airplane tickets first. When she repacked it, she found the watch she lost in Chicago. A replacement had just arrived, so she's now keeping the washed watch and sending the new one back. New York City Marathon weekend (10:35). They fly in Wednesday and go to the Harry Styles concert at MSG, where they're still working out their sign. Tina speaks at the expo on Thursday, and both run on Sunday. Ryan is nervous about the warm forecast. He recalls cramping up and becoming dehydrated after London in April, and he's thinking ahead to the walk back from the finish in Central Park. Ryan's 24-hour world record attempt (16:50). He's going after the record on December 19th on a 400 meter track, aiming to pass 198.5 miles. He explains why he chose this over a 100-mile race, what the crew setup looks like, and how he's thinking about bathroom stops. Tina talks about her mixed feelings about track running and about being there to support him. Backyard ultras (31:26). This was the most requested topic from listener questions. Ryan walks through how the format works: a 4.167 mile loop that has to be finished within each hour. He covers last week's World Team Championships, where the winner completed 107 laps. He also covers the format's history and the strategy and sleep deprivation involved. Ryan talks about his own ski version in January, where he stopped after 13 laps because of the cold. They also mention going to watch one in person. Sponsorships and rejection (46:30). They talk about how often brand conversations end in a "no" or silence, and why it's hard not to take that personally. Tina describes where she is in her own negotiations. She wants running to be a bigger part of her year without it taking over everything. Ryan describes weighing offers from several brands, and says it may come down to how each brand shows up and communicates rather than the product. Notification centers (1:12:34). Tina wants Ryan to turn off his notifications and the notification center. Ryan says his phone is full of emails, news, dating apps and texts. He admits he reads messages and then forgets to reply. He says he's closer to changing it, though Tina isn't convinced. Weekly icks (1:15:02). Ryan's ick is Tina's stream-of-consciousness texts when he's busy, which he also says he loves about her. Tina's ick is when he doesn't acknowledge her messages. Wrap-up (1:18:51). They thank listeners and ask for topic suggestions. They preview a busy two months, including a training camp and CIM. Next week's episode will be recorded live at Tina's house. Our ground rules: we will get off topicwe argue and pick fights with each otherwe swearwe are intentionally provocative (and have to work through disagreements to get to the next level of relationship) See you Every Friday! Theme music by TJ Dumser. You can find him on Instagram @sixmissing
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    1 hr and 15 mins
  • Episode 1: Strava's Reverse Psychology and Tina's Gross Backpack

    Episode 1: Strava's Reverse Psychology and Tina's Gross Backpack
    Oct 23 2026

    Our ground rules:

    • we will get off topic
    • we argue and pick fights with each other
    • we swear
    • we are intentionally provocative (and have to work through disagreements to get to the next level of relationship)
    Navigating Raw Conversations with Friends

    In this first episode of our podcast, we share insights into our friendship, highlighting the deep conversations that have made us best friends. In this episode, we reflect on how our relationship has evolved, and how we work with the complexities that come with being both friends and people who like to push boundaries.

    The journey of friendship

    We talk about how our connection has allowed for authentic and sometimes challenging discussions. If you are looking for a similar connection in your own life, this episode will resonate.

    Embracing vulnerability

    We are very honest about moments of tension and conflict, and how working through these challenges allowed us to grow. Ryan recalls a recent disagreement, stating, "We actually fought. But then we work through it because we love each other and we always find like common ground in our conversations." Our honesty about conflict sets the tone for this podcast, we want to explore uncomfortable yet necessary topics.

    What you can expect ahead

    Listeners can expect a mix of topics that resonate with both our personal and collective experiences. We would love to hear your ideas of what we can discuss.

    With this podcast, we hope to offer a space where listeners can feel like they are eavesdropping on an intimate conversation between friends, and we want to everyone to engage in deeper discussions in their own lives.

    See you Every Friday!

    Theme music by TJ Dumser. You can find him on Instagram @sixmissing
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • Tina Muir: End of an Era - R4R 439

    Tina Muir: End of an Era - R4R 439
    Apr 25 2025

    Tina has been a podcast host for a decade; first on Runners Connect's "Run to the Top," then since 2017 on her own award-winning show, "Running for Real." Inspiring interviews and deep friendships have come out of the experience, but now, she has decided, it's time to move on.

    She'll be focusing on her passion for environmentalism, especially through her work with Racing for Sustainability, the nonprofit she's created to help small to mid-sized races become more eco-conscious.

    For complete show notes and links, visit our website at runningforreal.com/episode439.

    Thank you to AG1 for sponsoring this episode.

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    They're offering new subscribers a FREE $76 gift when you sign up. You'll get a Welcome Kit, a bottle of D3K2 AND 5 free travel packs in your first box. So make sure to check out https://DrinkAG1.com/tina to get this offer!

    Thanks for listening!

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    Subscribe to our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/@TinaMuir) for additional content, including our "RED-S: Realize. Reflect. Recover" series of 100+ videos.

    Thank you for your support - we appreciate each and every one of you!
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    24 mins
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