A true Pride Parade, an LGBTQIA+ episode, and even the star of our podcast cover art: The iconic American Flamingo! Hannah + Cleo continue their Pride Month celebration by diving into the world of this hot pink bird. Join us as we explore the colorful history and science of American flamingos in this fabulously flamboyant episode.

Music by fknsyd

19:30 American flamingos discussion starts

Sources:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEgACdOetEc&t=457s

https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/grefla2/cur/introduction?login

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/American_Flamingo/overview

https://ielc.libguides.com/sdzg/factsheets/americanflamingo/characteristics

https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Phoenicopterus_ruber/

https://krdo.com/news/2024/08/21/same-sex-flamingo-pair-successfully-hatches-an-egg-together-at-a-uk-zoo/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://nypost.com/2024/08/21/science/same-sex-flamingo-pair-hatch-chick-the-parents-are-doing-a-great-job/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.southhams-today.co.uk/news/same-sex-flamingo-couple-successfully-hatch-a-chick-712705?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://people.com/same-sex-chilean-flamingo-couple-hatch-and-care-for-chick-8696536?utm_source=chatgpt.com

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/21/science/same-sex-flamingos-hatch-egg

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0376635719303377#:~:text=Bothmale-male and female,irrespective of enclosure size differences).

https://bi.org/en/resource/bi-and-pretty-in-pink-bisexuality-in-flamingos/

https://otterlieffe.com/queer-flamingos/

Documentary: Queer Planet

https://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/news/why-are-flamingos-pink-and-other-flamingo-facts

https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-one-mans-pink-plastic-flamingo-landed-lawns

They mate for life, they dance for years to get there, and at least thirty percent of them are female-female pairs. Hannah + Cleo celebrate Pride Month with the Laysan albatross! The seabird that quietly dismantled assumptions about pair bonding, raising chicks together, and currently adapting to survive in our inhospitable oceans. Lindsay Young's 2008 discovery at Kaena Point changed the game.

28:48 Albatross conversation starts

Music by fknsyd

Sources

All About Birds / Cornell Lab of Ornithology — Laysan Albatross

Discover Wildlife (Lucy Cooke) — "Hawaii's Lesbian Albatrosses"

National Geographic (Carl Zimmer) — "Same-Sex Mothers: Letting Albatrosses Be Albatrosses" / Young & VanderWerf, Proceedings of the Royal Society, 2013

Wikipedia — Albatross (metaphor), Laysan Albatross, The Rime of the Ancient Mariner

Audubon Society — field guide, courtship, Wisdom

U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service — Midway Atoll NWR, Wisdom updates

Earth Sky — Wisdom 2025–2026 season

Oceana — conservation profile

Taylor Swift — The Tortured Poets Department: The Anthology (2024)

Samuel Taylor Coleridge — The Rime of the Ancient Mariner (1798)

Seafood watch “app”

Ecobricking Info

A century of science packed into a single feather. Hannah + Cleo visit a 20-year-old banding station at Chatfield State Park, where four organizations, a lot of whisper nets, and one very informed bird bander are quietly building the data that keeps birds alive. From Hans Christian Mortensen's aluminum rings to hemisphere-spanning genomic maps, it turns out the oldest trick in ornithology is still the backbone of everything.

26:58 Bird Banding conversation starts

Sources

Bird Conservancy of the Rockies — Bird Banding: https://www.birdconservancy.org/what-we-do/education/bird-banding/

Denver Audubon — Bird Banding: https://www.denveraudubon.org/bird-banding

Audubon Rockies — Bird Banding Start to Finish: https://www.audubon.org/rockies/news/bird-banding-start-finish

USGS — Why We Band Birds: https://www.usgs.gov/labs/bird-banding-laboratory/science/why-we-band-birds

USGS — How to obtain a federal bird banding permit: https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-do-i-obtain-a-federal-bird-banding-permit

Bird Genoscape Project: https://www.birdgenoscape.org

Bird Genoscape Project - How To Make A Genoscape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmCI6z9vYM

Audubon Bird Migration Explorer: https://explorer.audubon.org

Motus Wildlife Tracking System: https://motus.org

U.S. Fish & Wildlife — Motus Stations: https://www.fws.gov/story/2023-05/motus-stations

NA Banding Network — Training resources: https://nabanding.net/passerines/training/

History of bird banding: https://www.raptorresource.org/2020/06/10/banding-birds-a-brief-history/

USGS Bird Banding Lab — Banding records: https://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/Bander_Portal/login/howmany.php

EURING Databank (Europe): https://euring.org/data-and-codes/euring-databank

SAFRING (Africa): https://safring.ringing.africa/

Flight Paths by Rebecca Heisman

She walks on water, runs the territory, and leaves dad holding the babies. Hannah + Cleo dive into the Jacana: the Jesus bird of the wetlands who breaks every rule nature supposedly wrote and somehow ended up tied to the oldest conservation treaty in history. And honestly? She's just getting started.

18:18 Jacana conversation starts

Sources:

Wikipedia: Jacanidae
Wikipedia: Northern Jacana
Wikipedia: Ramsar Convention
Wikipedia: Wetland
Wikipedia: Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust
San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants: Jacana
https://ebird.org/species/norjac
Animal Diversity Web: Jacanidae
A-Z Animals: Jacana
https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/jacani1/cur/introduction
https://earthsky.org/earth/jacana-birds-long-toes-walk-on-lily-pads/
https://www.birdnote.org/podcasts/birdnote-daily/jacana-aka-lily-trotter
Dimensions.com: Northern Jacana
https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/lucy-cooke-2/bitch/9781541674912/
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-026-70480-6
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service — Ramsar Convention on Wetlands
UNESCO — Convention on Wetlands of International Importance
Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust — Why the Ramsar Convention Matters More Than Ever
Hoosier Environmental Council — The Ramsar Convention on Wetlands
Kayhan Life — Obituary: Eskandar Firouz
https://www.ramsar.org/
Colorado Wetland Information Center (CWIC)

The stink bird! Hannah + Cleo finally get out of North America and take on the Hoatzin. The smelly punk rock pheasant of South America that may or may not be a pheasant... Tune in to hear about this and MUCH more.

20:10 Hoatzin conversation starts

Sources:

https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/hoatzi1/cur/introduction

https://www.ourbreathingplanet.com/hoatzin/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1602607328&gbraid=0AAAAADL0VgAHYIovTdN6qkMJD-vfUiOze&gclid=Cj0KCQjw77bPBhC_ARIsAGAjjV-InO0SQfBrTnO_1vbmGGnlkZuEW_C9f9E8RNPesjLD2jA435JksfwaAqGSEALw_wcB

https://critter.science/the-unusual-and-stinky-hoatzin/

https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/common-tern-chicks/#:~:text=In%20order%20to%20stay%20warm,down%20feathers%20natal%20down%20nesting

https://www.livescience.com/animals/birds/hoatzin-the-strange-stinkbird-born-with-clawed-wings-that-appears-to-be-an-evolutionary-orphan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HytWfqWYUQ&t=88s

https://a-z-animals.com/articles/meet-the-hoatzin-the-smelly-bird-with-claws-on-its-wings/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_(anatomy)

Two birds. One marsh. Centuries of hate. Hannah + Cleo break down the red-winged blackbird, the marsh wren, and their extremely heated rivalry while drawing comparisons to Heated Rivalry™️.

19:30 Heated Rivalry Gets Hot

Audubon Society. "Red-Winged Blackbird." Audubon Field Guide. audubon.org

Audubon Society. "10 Fun Facts About the Red-Winged Blackbird." Audubon Magazine. audubon.org

Audubon Society. "Marsh Wren." Audubon Field Guide. audubon.org

Cornell Lab of Ornithology. "Red-Winged Blackbird." All About Birds. allaboutbirds.org

Cornell Lab of Ornithology. "Marsh Wren." All About Birds. allaboutbirds.org

Smithsonian's National Zoo. "Red-Winged Blackbird." nationalzoo.si.edu

Wikipedia contributors. "Red-Winged Blackbird." Wikipedia. wikipedia.org

Wikipedia contributors. "Marsh Wren." Wikipedia. wikipedia.org

Picman, J. (1988). "Aggression by red-winged blackbirds towards marsh wrens." Canadian Journal of Zoology, 61(8), 1591–1595. springer.com

Springer Nature. "Antipredator role of clumped nesting by marsh-nesting red-winged blackbirds." Behavioral Ecology and Sociobiology. springer.com

BoB takes on their first conservationist! Join Hannah + Cleo this week for a semi-unexpected part 2 of Canada Geese and Fly Away Home as they deep dive into the man the movie is based on, the magical and wonderful Bill Lishman.

20:20 Discussion Bill Lishman Begins

Remembering artist Bill Lishman, the man who flew with Canadian geese | CBC Radio

https://www.cabinetmagazine.org/issues/11/harris_lishman.php

https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/bill-lishman

https://airandspace.si.edu/stories/editorial/operation-migration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bOoDDro3Pw

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231130-the-scientists-flying-with-rare-birds

https://www.fws.gov/press-release/2025-06/2025-wintering-whooping-crane-count#:~:text=The%20latest%20survey%20results%20from,for%20the%202024%2D2025%20season.

https://thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/women-and-education

https://www.gg.ca/en/honours/canadian-honours/meritorious-service-decorations-civil-division

https://www.divebombindustries.com/blogs/news/how-fast-can-geese-fly-facts-about-their-speed-and-endurance?srsltid=AfmBOoq4lBv_UdEOg0-yGfNQ8xgbwG7Fghvm_zfrXuimUZZuLBuV_gwt

https://williamlishmanartist.com/underground-architecture/

BoB recaps our first Feathered Flick! Join Hannah + Cleo as they talk about the 90's classic Fly Away Home. Where they learn alongside Anna Paquin and Jeff Daniels all about ultralight aircraft flying, family dynamics, Canada(kinda...), and Canada geese.

10:40 Movie discussion begins

Sources:
http://audubon.org/magazine/10-fun-facts-about-canada-goose

https://www.canada.ca/en/environment-climate-change/services/migratory-bird-conservation/managing-conflicts/frequently-asked-questions.html

https://arctic.noaa.gov/report-card/report-card-2022/arctic-geese-of-north-america/

https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Canada_Goose/maps-range

https://gogeesego.com/how-far-geese-winter/

https://birdfact.com/articles/what-is-a-group-of-geese-called

https://www.iflscience.com/fact-check-do-geese-have-teeth-heres-what-geese-teeth-really-are-62640

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116329/