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Birds on Birds

Birds on Birds

By: Hannah Gamble + Cleo Wells
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A narrative podcast from two bird lovers (and friends) exploring all things bird.© 2026 Hannah Gamble + Cleo Wells Biological Sciences Science
Episodes
  • BoB IRL: Bird Banding
    Jun 3 2026

    A century of science packed into a single feather. Hannah + Cleo visit a 20-year-old banding station at Chatfield State Park, where four organizations, a lot of whisper nets, and one very informed bird bander are quietly building the data that keeps birds alive. From Hans Christian Mortensen's aluminum rings to hemisphere-spanning genomic maps, it turns out the oldest trick in ornithology is still the backbone of everything.

    26:58 Bird Banding conversation starts

    Sources

    Bird Conservancy of the Rockies — Bird Banding: https://www.birdconservancy.org/what-we-do/education/bird-banding/

    Denver Audubon — Bird Banding: https://www.denveraudubon.org/bird-banding

    Audubon Rockies — Bird Banding Start to Finish: https://www.audubon.org/rockies/news/bird-banding-start-finish

    USGS — Why We Band Birds: https://www.usgs.gov/labs/bird-banding-laboratory/science/why-we-band-birds

    USGS — How to obtain a federal bird banding permit: https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/how-do-i-obtain-a-federal-bird-banding-permit

    Bird Genoscape Project: https://www.birdgenoscape.org

    Bird Genoscape Project - How To Make A Genoscape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NmCI6z9vYM

    Audubon Bird Migration Explorer: https://explorer.audubon.org

    Motus Wildlife Tracking System: https://motus.org

    U.S. Fish & Wildlife — Motus Stations: https://www.fws.gov/story/2023-05/motus-stations

    NA Banding Network — Training resources: https://nabanding.net/passerines/training/

    History of bird banding: https://www.raptorresource.org/2020/06/10/banding-birds-a-brief-history/

    USGS Bird Banding Lab — Banding records: https://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/BBL/Bander_Portal/login/howmany.php

    EURING Databank (Europe): https://euring.org/data-and-codes/euring-databank

    SAFRING (Africa): https://safring.ringing.africa/

    Flight Paths by Rebecca Heisman

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    1 hr and 45 mins
  • She Walks on Water: The Jacana
    May 27 2026

    She walks on water, runs the territory, and leaves dad holding the babies. Hannah + Cleo dive into the Jacana: the Jesus bird of the wetlands who breaks every rule nature supposedly wrote and somehow ended up tied to the oldest conservation treaty in history. And honestly? She's just getting started.


    18:18 Jacana conversation starts

    Sources:

    Wikipedia: Jacanidae
    Wikipedia: Northern Jacana
    Wikipedia: Ramsar Convention
    Wikipedia: Wetland
    Wikipedia: Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust
    San Diego Zoo Animals & Plants: Jacana
    https://ebird.org/species/norjac
    Animal Diversity Web: Jacanidae
    A-Z Animals: Jacana
    https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/jacani1/cur/introduction
    https://earthsky.org/earth/jacana-birds-long-toes-walk-on-lily-pads/
    https://www.birdnote.org/podcasts/birdnote-daily/jacana-aka-lily-trotter
    Dimensions.com: Northern Jacana
    https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/lucy-cooke-2/bitch/9781541674912/
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-026-70480-6
    U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service — Ramsar Convention on Wetlands
    UNESCO — Convention on Wetlands of International Importance
    Wildfowl & Wetlands Trust — Why the Ramsar Convention Matters More Than Ever
    Hoosier Environmental Council — The Ramsar Convention on Wetlands
    Kayhan Life — Obituary: Eskandar Firouz
    https://www.ramsar.org/
    Colorado Wetland Information Center (CWIC)

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    1 hr and 25 mins
  • Stinky, Clumsy, Claws...? The Hoatzin
    May 20 2026

    The stink bird! Hannah + Cleo finally get out of North America and take on the Hoatzin. The smelly punk rock pheasant of South America that may or may not be a pheasant... Tune in to hear about this and MUCH more.

    20:10 Hoatzin conversation starts

    Sources:

    https://birdsoftheworld.org/bow/species/hoatzi1/cur/introduction

    https://www.ourbreathingplanet.com/hoatzin/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=1602607328&gbraid=0AAAAADL0VgAHYIovTdN6qkMJD-vfUiOze&gclid=Cj0KCQjw77bPBhC_ARIsAGAjjV-InO0SQfBrTnO_1vbmGGnlkZuEW_C9f9E8RNPesjLD2jA435JksfwaAqGSEALw_wcB

    https://critter.science/the-unusual-and-stinky-hoatzin/

    https://academy.allaboutbirds.org/common-tern-chicks/#:~:text=In%20order%20to%20stay%20warm,down%20feathers%20natal%20down%20nesting

    https://www.livescience.com/animals/birds/hoatzin-the-strange-stinkbird-born-with-clawed-wings-that-appears-to-be-an-evolutionary-orphan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HytWfqWYUQ&t=88s

    https://a-z-animals.com/articles/meet-the-hoatzin-the-smelly-bird-with-claws-on-its-wings/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_(anatomy)

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    1 hr and 1 min
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