This week, Lise is joined by Dr Clare Jacobson, a clinical psychologist who specialises in cancer and has worked in the NHS for over 20 years. In 2012 she set up a cancer psychology service in an NHS teaching hospital, and she has since sat with around a thousand people and their loved ones as they live with the emotional reality of cancer.

With more of us supporting friends and family through a diagnosis as we move through midlife, this is a conversation about what really happens when treatment ends and the “invisible” work begins. It is a gentle, honest and ultimately hopeful listen. Please note that this episode talks about cancer, so do take care of yourself and skip it if it isn’t the right time.

In this episode, join Lise and discover:

• Why Clare believes a specialist psychologist should be part of every cancer team from day one
• The “second wave” after treatment finishes, when the medical team steps back and many people say they need support the most
• Clare’s “mobile” idea, which explains why friends and family cope so differently around a diagnosis, and how it can free loved ones to get things wrong and repair them
• Why “presence over perfection” matters when you are supporting someone
• What fear of recurrence really is, and why Clare thinks being treated for “health anxiety” can leave people feeling worse
• Clare’s “uninvited guests”, the invisible effects such as fatigue, anxiety and shifting identity, and how to learn to live alongside them
• How values, anchors and sails can help you find your direction again, and where Clare sees hope for patients and for the system

Quote of the episode

“Cancer is not just medical or physical. It is emotional, relational, sexual, spiritual, financial, political.” – Dr Clare Jacobson

Useful links

• Dr Clare’s website: https://drclarejacobson.co.uk/
• Dr Clare on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drclarejacobson/
• Dr Clare on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drclarejacobson/

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It is blowing a gale and pouring with rain, and Lise is unashamedly dodging a wet weather Out and About. Instead, she is tucked up in her study with her favourite canine friends scattered around her feet, mulling over what to do when the online trolls come knocking, and why being at peace is the best way to go.

Join Lise and discover...

• What happened when a tongue-in-cheek bikini post went viral
• How Lise handles trolls and why a community love bomb could be the best answer
• Why shame around food and bodies gets in the way for women of every age
• How to hold two things at once: appreciating your body and still wanting to change it

Quote of the episode

“Just be at peace that it’s about them and not you.”

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Welcome to a special Ramble Worldwide takeover episode of Walking This Way.

As a Ramble Worldwide ambassador Lise is joined this week by Donna Noble, a yoga educator and author of Demystifying Yoga: Making Yoga Inclusive for Everybody, and Jacqueline Hooton, the personal trainer behind Her Garden Gym on Instagram and author of Strong: The Definitive Guide to Active Aging. The three of them met on a Ramble Worldwide solo women's walking weekend in the Lake District, arriving as strangers and leaving as friends.

Ramble Worldwide has just launched their brand new brochure and excitingly there are 40 new tours included. They have been running walking holidays for 80 years so they really do know what they are doing. There really is something for most people, from gentle walks to big mountain days and everything in between. You can go on a cruise combined and do walks on shore days. Go to Barbados or Morocco. You can go solo, as a couple, with friends or as a private group, to incredible places all over the world. It also runs women-only tours, and every walk is led by a trained volunteer expert leader, which takes a lot of the worry out of it.

Plenty of women still assume a walking holiday is not for them, so this is a chat about who these trips are actually for, what travelling solo with a group is really like, and why it can be worth simply putting one foot in front of the other.

In this episode, join Lise and discover:

• How Donna, who had never done a proper walk before, got on during the weekend
• What was going through Jacqueline's head before the walk, from pace and steep descents to bathroom breaks, and how the tour leader paced the group so nobody felt left behind
• Why walking side-by-side leads to honest conversations between strangers, and how the weekend suited both the introverts and the extrovers
• What Donna and Jacqueline would say to a woman who wants to try something but feels she is not fit enough, young enough or brave enough

Quote of the episode
“Walking is probably the most accessible form of exercise there is. You don’t need to be particularly fit, you don’t need to be young and you don’t need much equipment. And yet lots of women still don’t necessarily think walking holidays, walking groups or outdoor adventure are for them. Why?” - Lise Thorne

Useful links

• Ramble Worldwide: https://www.rambleworldwide.co.uk/
• Ramble Worldwide brochure: https://www.rambleworldwide.co.uk/brochures/2026-2027-walking-holidays-brochure
• Donna's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/donnanobleyoga
• Jacqueline's Instagram, Her Garden Gym: https://www.instagram.com/hergardengym

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