Finding product–market fit isn’t the finish line—it’s base camp. In this episode, Hannah Clark sits down with Amit Shah, COO of Virta Health, to unpack what really happens after you’ve “made it” and the mountain suddenly gets steeper. Virta is scaling a fully virtual metabolic health clinic in a fast-moving healthcare landscape, and Amit brings a rare perspective shaped by nearly a decade inside the company—and a career that started in operations, not product.

Amit shares how Virta navigated rapid growth while building a scalable product organization, why simplicity becomes harder (not easier) as you scale, and how they make deliberate choices about where humans add the most value versus where AI should step in. If you’re wrestling with org design, prioritization, tech debt, or the ethics of AI in real-world products, this conversation offers a grounded look at what it takes to scale without losing your north star.

Resources from this episode:

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• Connect with Amit on LinkedIn
• Check out Virta Health

AI has collapsed the gap between idea and execution—but standing out in a flood of generative tools requires more than just speed. Product leaders now face a different kind of challenge: evaluating opportunities with sharper questions, building for users with evolving expectations, and navigating distribution channels that look nothing like they did a year ago.

Rachel Wolan, CPO at Webflow, joins Hannah to unpack what it really takes to ship differentiated, production-ready AI products in a crowded market. Drawing from her experience leading product at Dropbox and now building an AI-native digital experience platform, Rachel shares how she approaches defensibility, user segmentation, AEO, and when to buy versus build.

Resources from this episode:

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• Connect with Rachel on LinkedIn and Twitter/X
• Check out Webflow

Welcome to 2026! In this special retrospective episode, host Hannah Clark is joined by producer Becca Banyard to unpack the biggest themes, standout insights, and most listened-to moments from the past year. Together, they reflect on what made 2025 such a pivotal year in product—where AI reigned, volatility was the norm, and the role of product leadership was stretched in new directions.

This episode is both a reflection and a guide. Hannah and Becca break down what they learned from conversations with CPOs, founders, researchers, and consultants who all shared one thing in common: navigating change while building great products. Whether you’re a seasoned exec, a leader on the rise, or somewhere in between, this wrap-up points you to the episodes you shouldn’t miss—and gives a preview of where the conversation is headed in 2026.

Resources from this episode:

• Subscribe to The CPO Club newsletter
• Referenced Episodes & Guests to Revisit:
  • Finding Your Unfair Advantage in Product’s Wild West Era with Margaret-Ann Seger
  • How Did This CPO Pull Off 350% Growth in Two Years?! with Benjamin Berry
  • The Nuances of Product Leadership No One Talks About with Debbie McMahon
  • How to Adapt to the New Gold Standard in Product Management with Dr. Maryam Ashoori
  • The Product Leader’s Guide to Buyer Psychology with Chris Silvestri
  • The New Exec Playbook: Your Most Important First Moves in Your First Executive Role with Yue Zhao
  • Are We Overpromising and Under-delivering on AI? with Dhruv Batra
  • Why It’s So Hard to Adopt New Skills with Maxine Anderson
  • The Systems Thinking Process Used by the Most Adaptable Product Leaders with Sheryl Cababa