It's time to continue our series on England’s 1966 World Cup win.

In part two, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson discuss press criticism, surprise call-ups, and the group stage injury to Jimmy Greaves that had such a huge impact on England's eventual triumph...

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00:00 England Written Off

01:48 Austria Defeat Fallout

04:17 Ramsey Rethinks Tactics

07:47 Greaves Under Scrutiny

10:24 Spain Reveals Wingless Plan

15:08 Poland Test and Peters Shock

20:43 Hiding the System

22:21 World Cup Opener Uruguay

25:49 Uruguay Stalemate Fallout

26:49 Meet J L Manning

28:58 Tactics Jargon Backlash

32:24 Mexico Magic Moment

33:15 Charlton Screamer Breakdown

36:18 France Win And Rotation

39:04 Stiles Controversy And FA Row

42:36 Greaves Injury Hurst Opportunity

44:50 Greaves Debate Luxury Player

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This week on The Overlap, Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson begin a four-part series revisiting England’s 1966 World Cup win.

Part one focuses on Sir Alf Ramsey’s background - and the conservative England setup he inherited, including the FA selection committee and a poor early World Cup record. We'll look at how a trip to Brazil in 1964 helped to change things for Ramsey - and we'll see the emergence of his core players - who would go on to become England legends.

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00:00 Meet Alf Ramsey

01:49 Ipswich Miracle Title

03:28 Ending Selection Committees

05:20 England World Cup Woes

06:50 Dour Yet Radical

09:23 Xenophobia And Origins

14:14 Was 1966 A Curse

17:28 Ramsey Playing Roots

20:36 Ipswich Tactical Experiments

24:38 Brutalism And Football

27:27 Brutalism Meets Football

31:21 Ramsey Blueprint Emerges

33:02 First Camp Shock Therapy

36:43 Early Results and Doubts

40:05 Brazil Trip Reality Check

40:43 Curfew Crackdown

46:16 Tactics Shift and New Spine

47:51 Jack Charlton and Stiles Debut

53:19 Foundations of 1966

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Welcome back to the Fan Debate, brought to you by Sky Bet.

In this special episode we are talking all things World Cup. Will Scotland finally get out of the group and what do our English fans make of Thomas Tuchel’s squad selection?

Shay Given and Jamie Carragher are also joined by Jonathan Wilson, reliving some of his favourite World Cup moments, including Maradona’s 2 goals in 5 minutes in 1986!

We start the show by discussing the price of tickets for fans, and how many fans are being outpriced for the tournament ahead.

We then move on to Scotland. Their first World Cup since 1998, brothers from the band Skerryvore, Daniel and Martin Gillespie are hopeful on getting out of the group labelling Scott McTominay and John McGinn vital players.

The episode then turns to the Three Lions. The debate is initially on Thomas Tuchel’s World Cup squad with big names being left out such as Adam Wharton and Trent Alexander- Arnold.

We also discuss how England will set up, their chances of winning and will Tuchel favour Jude Bellingham for England’s first game against Croatia?

Who will have a better tournament England or Scotland? Let us know in the comments and don’t forget to subscribe!

00:00- Intro

08:17- World Cup Ticket Prices

23:32- Scotland Expectations

27:25- England Squad Reactions

32:20- Who Missed Out

39:42- Jude Bellingham

45:21- Ronaldo Messi Debate

46:54- Top Three Iconic Moments

We loved having Daniel and Martin Gillespie on from Skerryvore, here is a link to their evening of entertainment on the 12th June 2026:

https://www.noscotlandnoparty2026.com/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZnRzaASPyv1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAafSjYg4SlqFJL-gBCGlYvLTesySuI3US1RNfTAFdWb7h76FEb3fXO44yoTuhg_aem_HEOWs6X3jlQxXDk0ZpLMzg

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