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The Other 22 Hours

The Other 22 Hours

By: Michaela Anne Aaron Shafer-Haiss
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"Artistry flourishes in shared conversation." Everyone struggles with self-doubt and motivation in their careers. The Other 22 Hours Podcast features conversations with renowned musicians and artists, sharing tools for resilience, helping you feel more inspired, connected, and confident in your creative journey. Hosted by music producer Aaron Shafer-Haiss, and singer-songwriter Michaela Anne, these are artist-lead conversations - not your typical outsider journalist interviews.2023-25 The 0ther 22 Hours Podcast Art Hygiene & Healthy Living Music Psychology Psychology & Mental Health
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  • Kathleen Edwards on losing perspective, winning the lottery, and 'Quitters'.
    Dec 31 2025

    Kathleen Edwards has been releasing records for over 20 years on labels such as Rounder and Dualtone, she is critically acclaimed by NPR, The New York Times, The New Yorker, and Rolling Stone, and has worked with Jason Isbell, Bon Iver, John Doe, Marren Morris. We talk to Kathleen about winning the lottery, quitting as an ego reset, why musicians are the bottom of the food chain, finishing on a positive, and a whole lot more.

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    Links:

    • Kathleen Edwards
    • Ken Yates
    • Allison Russell
    • Stephen Wilson Jr
    • Ep 126 - Yancey Strickler
    • Kahlil Gibran

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    Social Media:

    • The Other 22 Hours Instagram
    • The Other 22 Hours TikTok
    • Michaela Anne Instagram
    • Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

    All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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    43 mins
  • How UMAW is leading the labor movement to save the music industry.
    Dec 29 2025

    UMAW (the United Musicians and Allied Workers) is a labor organization that 'Aims to organize music workers to fight for a more just music industry and to join with other workers in the struggle for a better society.' Their campaigns include Fair Pay at SXSW, #MyMerch (raising awareness of venues taking an unfair cut), Justice at Spotify, and probably most prominently, The Living Wage For Musicians Act sponsored by Rep Rashida Tlaib in the US Congress currently. We talk with a representative from UMAW - Damon Krukowski (a working musician, and a founder of late 80's indie rocker band Galaxie 500) about who UMAW is, what they are fighting for, and how we can all join the fight.

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    Links:

    • UMAW
    • Galaxie 500
    • ‘Why Sound Matters’
    • Ep 126 - Yancey Strickler
    • AFM
    • SAG-AFTRA
    • Living Wage for Musicians Act

    Click here to watch this conversation on YouTube.

    Social Media:

    • The Other 22 Hours Instagram
    • The Other 22 Hours TikTok
    • Michaela Anne Instagram
    • Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

    All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

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    52 mins
  • Chely Wright on strategic reinvention, the "pink haze" of losing everything, and 10,000 sunrises.
    Dec 24 2025

    Chely Wright has sold over 1.5 million records with 90s country anthems like "Single White Female" and "Shut Up and Drive," she released her landmark autobiography, "Like Me" in 2010, becoming the first mainstream country star to come out, and forcing open conversations about LGBTQ identity, after a 10 year absence she returned to The Opry in 2019, released another book 'My Moment' in 2022, and has since pivoted to the corporate world where she is now an SVP. We talk with Chely about this pivot and giving ourselves permission to innovate, consulting your 90 year old self, Ellen's brutally honest advice on losing it all when Chely first came out, manifesting vs reality and a whole lot more.

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    Links:

    • Chely Wright
    • 'Like Me: Confessions of a Heartland Country Singer'
    • 'My Moment'
    • Mountain Stage
    • ISS
    • Ellen
    • Ep 16 - Rodney Crowell
    • Jean Smart
    • Mare of Easttown
    • Wayne Kirkpatrick
    • Ep 100 - Rosanne Cash
    • Peter Gomes

    Click here to watch this conversation on YouTube.

    Social Media:

    • The Other 22 Hours Instagram
    • The Other 22 Hours TikTok
    • Michaela Anne Instagram
    • Aaron Shafer-Haiss Instagram

    All music written, performed, and produced by Aaron Shafer-Haiss.

    Become a subscribing member on our Patreon to gain more inside access including exclusive content, workshops, the chance to have your questions answered by our upcoming guests, and more.

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    48 mins
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