Stress is preventing learning, leadership, and healing—and most people don’t know why.

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Dr. Jeannie Iberlin—transformational coach, former school administrator, and author of The Unbelievable Power of Feelings—explains why mindfulness isn’t about escaping emotions, but learning how to feel without being overwhelmed.

You’ll learn:

- Why anxiety shuts down learning and decision-making

- The difference between “thinking about feelings” vs actually feeling them

- How short, consistent mindfulness practices rewire the nervous system

- Why meditation doesn’t require bliss, silence, or perfection

- How teachers, leaders, parents, and children can regulate emotions daily

- The overlooked connection between trauma, stress, and emotional suppression

- What “waking up” and “waking down” really means for personal growth

This conversation is practical, grounded, and deeply human—offering tools you can use immediately, whether you’re leading a classroom, a team, or your own inner work.

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What happens when high performers ignore their body, suppress vulnerability, and power through for too long?

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, entrepreneur and author Melissa Gonzalez shares the pivotal moment that forced her to rethink leadership, success, and wellbeing. After years on Wall Street and building fast-growing companies, her body finally demanded attention—triggering a profound shift in how she leads, lives, and listens.

This conversation explores:

-Why high achievers ignore early warning signs until crisis hits

-The hidden cost of “powering through” in leadership and life

-How intuition and vulnerability become leadership advantages—not liabilities

-Why slowing down actually increases clarity, impact, and performance

-How purpose isn’t something you do—but something you embody

Melissa breaks down the lessons behind her book The Purpose Pivot, revealing how leaders—especially women—can build sustainable success without sacrificing their health, family, or identity.

If you’re leading at a high level but feeling disconnected, depleted, or stuck in constant output mode, this episode will challenge how you define strength—and show you a better way forward.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Women in Leadership

01:17 Guest Introduction: Melissa Gonzalez

02:01 Melissa's Career Journey and First Pivot

03:37 Starting the Lions Group and Design Path

04:14 Acquisition by MG2 and Colliers

06:27 Personal Health Crisis and Realizations

11:16 The Importance of Vulnerability

19:33 Sharing Stories and Creating Safe Spaces

22:22 Facing Doubts and Embracing Vulnerability

24:03 Understanding and Teaching Intuition

25:53 The Importance of Presence and Mindfulness

31:36 Balancing Productivity and Well-being

42:27 Discovering and Living Your Purpose

47:01 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Most people think confidence comes from success.

In reality, confidence comes from self-trust—and most people never learn how to build it.

In this episode of The Mark Divine Show, Mark sits down with Shadé Zahrai, award-winning leadership strategist, Harvard-trained researcher, and author of Big Trust.

Together, they unpack why:

Self-doubt is not the enemy—it’s a signal

- Psychological safety fails when people don’t trust themselves

- Waiting to “feel confident” keeps people stuck

- Inner critics sabotage leadership, performance, and relationships

- True confidence is built through trust, not validation

Shadé introduces her Big Trust framework, breaking down:

- The four core traits that shape self-image

- The internal archetypes that quietly run your behavior

- How to turn doubt into data instead of self-sabotage

- Why self-trust must come before action, not after

- Practical tools to quiet the inner critic and lead with clarity

This conversation bridges neuroscience, leadership psychology, and lived experience to help you stop outsourcing your worth—and start trusting yourself under pressure.

If you’ve ever felt capable but hesitant, accomplished but unsure, or driven but internally conflicted—this episode will give you language, structure, and tools to change that.

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Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction: Journey into Big Trust

00:44 Join The Unbeatable Tribe

02:04 Meet Dr. Sade Rai

03:20 The Path to Leadership and Performance Psychology

07:11 The Role of Self-Doubt and Trust

12:10 Understanding Self-Image and Core Self-Evaluations

20:47 The Four Archetypes of Self-Doubt

31:55 Visualizing and Reclaiming Ownership

32:30 Personal Example of Managing Thoughts

33:24 Understanding the Root Cause

35:15 The WIRM Process

38:29 The Story of the Golden Buddha

42:04 Building Self-Esteem and Agency

46:21 The Power of Hope and Emotional Adaptability

52:19 Addressing the Victimizer Archetype

56:49 Practical Steps to Develop Trust

01:01:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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