Episodes

  • When Business Becomes a Place of Belonging l The Flow with Bob Martin

    When Business Becomes a Place of Belonging l The Flow with Bob Martin
    Oct 30 2026

    What makes a business truly successful: the money it earns or the lives it touches? In this thoughtful conversation, Bob Martin and Phil Smith explore how following a vision can lead to meaningful work, stronger communities, and a deeper sense of purpose.

    Phil Smith, owner of The Oak House in Elon, North Carolina, shares the story behind creating a welcoming community space where students, professors, employees, and local residents can connect. He reflects on the courage it takes to leave a familiar career path, the unexpected moments that bring a vision to life, and the realities of running a small business. Bob and Phil explore how technology and changing habits may be affecting human connection, why mentorship and reciprocal loyalty matter, and how business owners can balance financial success with ethical responsibility. Phil also shares how his grandparents, family, and mentors shaped his values and why helping employees and students grow gives his work meaning. The conversation closes with a memorable lesson about staying alert, humble, and engaged—even when things are going well.

    Join Bob Martin and Phil Smith for an inspiring conversation about entrepreneurship, purpose, community, and what it means to build a life that matters. Watch the full episode of The Flow with Bob Martin, subscribe to the channel, and follow along for more thoughtful conversations about personal growth, meaningful work, and living wisely.

    📌 Video Chapters

    00:00 Building a Place to Belong

    05:27 When Students Challenge Your Dreams

    10:29 Vision, Opportunity, and Taking Risks

    14:57 Technology and the Loss of Connection

    23:28 The Reality of Small Business Ownership

    28:45 Finding Purpose Through Serving Others

    34:54 The People Who Shape Our Values

    40:21 Why Loyalty and Ethics Matter

    46:38 The Wisdom of Staying Hungry

    48:22 A Final Invitation to Connect

    💬 Featured Quotes

    “They are family. They are chosen family.” — Phil Smith

    “It's not in my DNA, I learned it from people, for sure.” — Phil Smith · 40:16

    “The time I am personally most vulnerable to utter failure is whenever it's the best.” — Phil Smith

    “You have to be loyal to expect loyalty.” — Bob Martin

    “Models, models in our lives are important.” — Bob Martin

    💡 Episode Key Takeaways

    A business can be a source of belonging. A welcoming space can become an important part of a community, creating relationships that go far beyond transactions.

    Sometimes others help us pursue our own dreams. Phil's students challenged him to live by the same principles of passion and purpose he encouraged them to follow.

    Meaningful work is about helping people grow. Mentoring employees and students, trusting them with responsibility, and watching their confidence develop can be deeply rewarding.

    Ethical leadership puts people alongside profit. Fair treatment, reciprocal loyalty, and concern for employees matter when making business decisions.

    Success requires continued effort. Phil's “Fat cats don't hunt” lesson reminds us not to become complacent when life or business is going well.

    🔗 Connect with Phil Smith

    Website: https://elonoakhouse.square.site/

    Facebook: https://elonoakhouse.square.site/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elonoakhouse/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/phil-smith-91967b28/

    🔗 Connect with Bob Martin

    Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home

    Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin

    Email: contact@theflowmedia.com

    Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/

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    To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com

    #TheFlowWithBobMartin #Entrepreneurship #LifePurpose #HumanConnection #MeaningfulWork

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    49 mins
  • Last Call, and the Count (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 3)

    Last Call, and the Count (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 3)
    Oct 28 2026

    What happens when election-night claims get ahead of the facts?

    In the final episode of Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts, Bob Martin explores why election results can take time, how misinformation can undermine public trust, and why checks and balances matter to American democracy.

    Your vote matters—but so does your understanding of how elections work. Before accepting claims of victory or fraud, discover why patience, accurate information, and civic responsibility are essential to protecting democracy.

    Bob Martin concludes this three-part series by examining common voting myths and the facts behind election-night results. He explains why unofficial numbers, changing leads, mail-in ballots, provisional ballots, and recounts are part of the counting process—not automatic evidence of fraud. Drawing on a closely contested North Carolina Supreme Court race, Bob illustrates why election outcomes can take time to resolve. He also shares his perspective on the importance of checks and balances, congressional oversight, and accountability in government. Finally, he offers practical reminders for voters, from checking polling locations and helping neighbors get to the polls to following official election updates and waiting for the count to finish before sharing claims about the results.

    Make your voice count. Watch the full episode of The Flow with Bob Martin, share this conversation with someone who cares about democracy, and subscribe to the channel for more thoughtful discussions about civic life, personal growth, and the issues shaping our world.

    Stay awake. Stay aware. Stay engaged.

    📌 Video Chapters

    00:00 Why This Election Matters 01:01 Prepare for Election Day 01:56 The Election Night Myth 02:23 The Case for Checks and Balances 04:26 Why Vote Counts Take Time 05:25 Lessons from North Carolina 06:17 Claims Before the Count Is Complete 06:47 How to Help Your Vote Count 07:47 North Carolina Voting Details 08:23 Stay Engaged in Democracy

    🔗 Connect with Bob Martin

    Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home

    Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin

    Email: contact@theflowmedia.com

    Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/

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    To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com

    #MidtermElections #ElectionIntegrity #VotingRights #AmericanDemocracy

    #TheFlowWithBobMartin
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    9 mins
  • Journalism, Fake News, and the Fight for Democracy l The Flow with Bob Martin

    Journalism, Fake News, and the Fight for Democracy l The Flow with Bob Martin
    Oct 23 2026

    In a world flooded with headlines, social media opinions, and claims of fake news, how can we know what is actually true? Retired journalism professor Anthony Hatcher joins Bob Martin to explore what happens when fact-checking, ethical reporting, and independent journalism give way to misinformation and political influence.

    Anthony Hatcher, a recently retired journalism professor at Elon University, shares his perspective on the changing media landscape and the vital role of professional journalism in a democratic society. Drawing on decades of experience, he explains how the decline of local newspapers affects communities and national politics, why social media influencers are not a substitute for trained journalists, and how media ownership and story selection can shape public understanding. The conversation examines confirmation bias, media bias, journalistic ethics, investigative reporting, and the responsibility to correct mistakes. Hatcher also offers practical advice for identifying trustworthy news sources, checking original documents, comparing reports, and verifying claims before sharing them. Most importantly, he explains why a free press serves the public interest by holding powerful people accountable and protecting democratic freedoms.

    How do you decide which news sources to trust? Join the conversation by watching or listening to the full episode of The Flow with Bob Martin. Subscribe to the channel for more thoughtful discussions about truth, freedom, society, and the ideas shaping our world.

    📌 Video Chapters

    00:00 The Truth About Journalism

    01:12 A Journalist's Beginnings

    05:26 The Decline of Local News

    10:18 Journalism vs. Influencers

    14:30 Ethics, Accuracy, and Bias

    26:27 Media Ownership and Story Bias

    38:54 How to Spot Reliable News

    44:59 Journalism and Democracy

    49:59 Investigative Reporting for the People

    52:18 Closing Reflections

    💬 Featured Quotes “It is better to be right than to be first.” - Anthony Hatcher

    "I do believe the ethical and moral lines have been shoved further and further out there." - Anthony Hatcher

    “Reporters are some of the best patriots out there.” -Anthony Hatcher

    “You guys are the only ones that stand between the propaganda of an abusive government and the people.” - Bob Martin

    “Just because they're biased doesn't necessarily mean they're not accurate, but you do have to check.” - Bob Martin

    💡 Episode Key Takeaways

    • Accuracy matters more than speed. Responsible journalism requires verification, fairness, and a commitment to getting the facts right.
    • Local journalism matters nationally. When local newsrooms shrink, communities lose coverage of the decisions and events that shape their lives.
    • Social media is not a substitute for original reporting. Influencers may repeat news without providing the verification and accountability of professional journalists.
    • Bias and accuracy are not mutually exclusive. Evaluate individual reports, compare independent sources, and check original evidence rather than dismissing a story automatically.
    • A free press protects democracy. Investigative journalism helps hold powerful people accountable and gives the public information needed to make informed decisions.

    🔗Connect with Anthony Hatcher

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/anthony.hatcher

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ahatcher54

    🔗 Connect with Bob Martin

    Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home

    Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin

    Email: contact@theflowmedia.com

    Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/

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    To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com

    #Journalism #MediaLiteracy #FakeNews #FreedomOfThePress #Democracy

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    53 mins
  • Protect Your Ballot, Know Your Rights (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 2)

    Protect Your Ballot, Know Your Rights (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 2)
    Oct 21 2026

    Could fear and misinformation keep people from exercising one of their most important democratic rights? In Part 2 of Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts, Bob Martin examines common election concerns and explains why informed participation, voting rights, and balance of power matter.

    In this new episode of The Flow with Bob Martin, Bob explores two widespread election concerns: claims of widespread mail-in ballot fraud and fears about troops or federal agents at polling places. Drawing on election fraud cases, voting procedures, and his experience as a former prosecutor, Bob discusses the difference between genuine threats and fear-driven rumors. He explains how mail ballot deadlines, voter intimidation, and misinformation can affect participation, while sharing practical steps voters can take to protect their ballots, understand their rights, verify information, and report concerns appropriately. Bob also examines the constitutional principle of checks and balances, making the case for balance in government regardless of which political party holds power. This thoughtful conversation encourages viewers to look beyond rumors, stay informed about election rules, and approach civic participation with greater awareness and responsibility.

    Your vote matters, and so does the information you share. Watch the full episode, reflect on the facts, and join Bob Martin for more thoughtful conversations about democracy, mindful living, and the issues shaping our lives. Subscribe to The Flow with Bob Martin on YouTube and stay tuned for Part 3 of Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts.

    Stay awake, stay aware, and stay engaged.

    📌 Video Chapters

    00:00 Introduction

    00:08 Why This Election Matters

    01:13 The Case for Balance of Power

    03:28 The Truth About Mail Ballot Fraud

    05:34 Troops at Polls: Facts and Concerns

    06:45 How Voter Intimidation Works

    07:45 Know Your Voting Rights

    08:19 Practical Voting Tips and Deadlines

    09:18 Choose Facts Over Fear

    🔗 Connect with Bob Martin

    Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home

    Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin

    Email: contact@theflowmedia.com

    Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/

    OR

    To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com

    #VotingRights #ElectionIntegrity #VoterEducation #ElectionMisinformation #TheFlowWithBobMartin
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    10 mins
  • Ian Baltutis, NC House District 63: Wages, Childcare, and the Cost of Living l The Flow with Bob Martin

    Ian Baltutis, NC House District 63: Wages, Childcare, and the Cost of Living l The Flow with Bob Martin
    Oct 19 2026
    What makes a great political leader: cutting costs, winning headlines, or listening to the people who live with the consequences? On The Flow with Bob Martin, former Burlington Mayor Ian Baltutis explores how community-centered leadership, smart public investment, and practical problem-solving can help build a stronger future. Bob Martin and Ian Baltutis discuss the real challenges facing North Carolina communities, from rising living costs and stagnant wages to affordable childcare, healthcare access, education funding, and infrastructure. Drawing on his experience as a small-business owner and local government leader, Ian explains how entrepreneurial thinking can help communities solve problems with limited resources. They examine the long-term value of public investment, the role of small businesses in job creation, and why efficiency requires empowering workers rather than simply cutting budgets. The conversation also explores inclusive political leadership, the importance of listening to residents, and the need to look beyond election cycles when making decisions that affect future generations. Ian shares why community representation, practical solutions, and a responsive government matter—and why leaders must appeal to people's better angels rather than their fears. What does your community need most from its leaders? Share your thoughts in the comments, and join Bob Martin and Ian Baltutis for this conversation about leadership, politics, affordability, and building stronger communities. Watch the full episode, subscribe to The Flow with Bob Martin on YouTube, and follow the show for more conversations that help us understand the forces shaping our world. 📌 Video Chapters 00:00 Meet Ian Baltutis 02:02 Entrepreneurship Meets Government 04:11 The Real Cost of Affordability 10:33 Investment Over Short-Term Thinking 15:13 Education, Housing and Childcare 19:54 Who Really Creates Jobs? 22:26 Efficiency Beyond Budget Cuts 25:10 Listening Is Leadership 36:35 Inclusive Politics and Better Leadership 47:05 Affordability and North Carolina's Future 💬 Featured Quotes "If you can come to the table and be a good listener, then you are one of the best leaders that we could possibly ask for in government today." - Ian Baltutis "It's my responsibility to gather, to build the tent, to gather, to create a space where people's voices can be heard and where they're empowered to raise their hand and say, Hey, let's try this." - Ian Baltutis "If you can control the issue, you can control the argument." - Bob Martin 💡 Episode Key Takeaways Listening is a core leadership skill. Leaders must understand the problems people actually experience before developing policies or solutions. Public investment can create long-term value. Education, infrastructure, healthcare, and childcare support stronger communities and future economic opportunity. Small businesses deserve meaningful support. Local entrepreneurs help create jobs, address community needs, and keep money circulating within local economies. Efficiency means more than cutting costs. Empowering employees, retaining capable workers, and addressing problems at their source can improve how organizations serve people. Inclusive leadership builds stronger communities. Bringing different perspectives into the conversation can uncover shared concerns, broaden participation, and produce solutions that reflect the people affected by them. 🔗 Connect with Ian Baltutis Website: https://www.baltutis.us/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/votebaltutis Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ianbaltutis LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-baltutis/ 🔗 Connect with Bob Martin: Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin Email: contact@theflowmedia.com Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/ OR To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com
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    57 mins
  • Why Freedom and Power Keep Colliding l The Flow with Bob Martin

    Why Freedom and Power Keep Colliding l The Flow with Bob Martin
    Oct 16 2026
    Why do societies that promise freedom and security so often struggle with power, division, and political corruption? This conversation explores the tension between individual liberty, collective responsibility, and the systems that shape our lives. Bob Martin welcomes author and deep thinker James Keena to The Flow for a thoughtful discussion about socialism, communism, authoritarianism, and the meaning of freedom. They examine the difference between individual autonomy and government control, the influence of political and financial elites, and the growing distance between ordinary citizens and the institutions that govern them. The conversation explores human nature, tribal cooperation, community, family responsibility, and the challenge of finding a balance between personal freedom and society's shared needs. They also discuss whether larger governments and institutions can weaken the relationships that once helped communities thrive, the role of public programs and charitable organizations, and the importance of questioning political assumptions. James shares how his experiences in politics inspired his Pathless Land novels, including 2084 American Apocalypse, Outcast Island, and The Elites versus Everyone Else. Together, Bob and James consider how storytelling can help us examine power, responsibility, and the future of society. What does a free and compassionate society look like to you? Watch or listen to the full conversation and join the discussion. Subscribe to The Flow with Bob Martin for more thoughtful conversations about human nature, politics, personal responsibility, and the ideas that shape our world. 📌 Video Chapters 00:00 – Understanding Socialism and Communism 02:24 – Marx, History, and Political Ideology 06:19 – Compassion, Freedom, and Human Nature 12:07 – Finding the Balance Between Freedom and Authority 15:48 – Democracy, the Constitution, and Government Power 22:09 – Political Systems, Community, and Social Change 25:26 – Human Survival, Tribalism, and Modern Society 33:10 – Individual Responsibility and Personal Freedom 40:20 – Compassion, Family, and Collective Responsibility 54:22 – James Keena’s Books and the Future of Society 💬 Featured Quotes “We're all altruistic beings, we're all compassionate beings. And the only way, the only time compassion and altruism become a problem is when it becomes forced on people.” — James Keena “Somewhere in between those two ends, anarchy and totalitarianism, is a Goldilocks zone where we have sufficient rules where we can say, I feel safe in this society.” — James Keena “I just want people to start to question what they see today, regardless of you know, where your thought process takes you.” - James Keena “It may be that simply technology and society have grown so big that really they're beyond our intellectual capacity to govern them.” — Bob Martin “Two things can be true at the same time.” — Bob Martin 💡 Episode Key Takeaways Freedom requires boundaries. The discussion explores the challenge of balancing individual autonomy with the laws and structures needed for a functioning society. Human cooperation matters. Both speakers examine how trust, compassion, and mutual support helped human communities survive. Power can become disconnected from people. James Keena argues that political and financial elites can influence government in ways that weaken ordinary citizens' control. Personal responsibility shapes the future. James Keena emphasizes that our choices, actions, and values contribute to the people we become. Question assumptions and consider complexity. The conversation encourages critical thinking rather than accepting political narratives without examination. 🔗 Connect with James Keena Website: https://jameskeena.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JamesKeena2084/ IG: https://www.instagram.com/authorjameskeena/ X: https://x.com/JamesRKeena1 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jameskeena/ 🔗 Connect with Bob Martin Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin Email: contact@theflowmedia.com Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/ OR To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com #TheFlowWithBobMartin #JamesKeena #FreedomAndControl #PoliticalPhilosophy #IndividualFreedom
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    1 hr and 1 min
  • How and When We Vote Matters This Year (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 1)

    How and When We Vote Matters This Year (Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts Part 1)
    Oct 14 2026

    Your vote matters—but when, where, and how you vote can make a difference. In this first part of Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts, Bob Martin explores the voting challenges surrounding the 2026 midterm elections and explains why having a plan is more important than ever.

    Bob Martin examines the myth that every voting method is equally reliable, exploring the practical considerations surrounding early in-person voting, mail-in ballots, registration requirements, deadlines, and voter identification. He connects these concerns to a broader discussion of democracy, checks and balances, and the importance of balancing political power. Bob also shares a practical voting plan: verify your registration, find your local early voting dates and locations, understand ID requirements, schedule your voting day, and help someone else make a plan. His central message is simple: confusion can lead to hesitation, but preparation empowers people to take action and participate in democracy.

    Your vote deserves a plan! Watch the full episode, check out the accompanying blog post for additional resources, and share this conversation with someone who needs a reminder to prepare. Subscribe to The Flow with Bob Martin for thoughtful commentary, meaningful conversations, and insights that help you stay informed, aware, and engaged. Join us next week for Part 2 of Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts.

    📌 Video Chapters

    00:00 – Why the 2026 Midterm Elections Matter 00:39 – Your Vote: The Myths and the Facts 01:08 – Democracy Needs Checks and Balances 02:06 – Election Rules and Voting Challenges 03:33 – Early Voting vs. Mail-In Ballots 04:37 – Six Steps to Make Your Vote Count 06:06 – North Carolina Voting Deadlines 06:36 – Turn Confusion Into Action

    🔗 Connect with Bob Martin:

    Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home

    Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin

    Email: contact@theflowmedia.com

    Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/

    OR

    To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com

    #MidtermElections #VotingRights #EarlyVoting #YourVoteMatters #TheFlowWithBobMartin

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    8 mins
  • What’s Happening to American Education and Democracy? l The Flow with Bob Martin

    What’s Happening to American Education and Democracy? l The Flow with Bob Martin
    Oct 9 2026
    What happens when students can access almost any information instantly—but lose the ability to question it, connect it, and decide what is actually true? Lee Knapp joins Bob Martin for a wide-ranging conversation about education, critical thinking, history, political polarization, democracy, faith, economics, and the role teachers can play in helping people think for themselves. Lee Knapp reflects on the teacher who inspired her career, decades spent teaching history, returning to her former high school, and witnessing dramatic changes in diversity and education. She and Bob explore whether technology and standardized testing have changed how students learn, why information alone is not enough without the ability to synthesize evidence, and why developing a personal “BS detector” matters in a world where people can be manipulated by misinformation and political messaging. Their conversation expands into race and education, the Constitution, civic responsibility, political polarization, religion, Christian nationalism, wealth inequality, rugged individualism, public education, and the changing role of government. Lee also discusses her memoir, History Rhymes with Lee, and why exposure to people different from ourselves can deepen empathy and challenge assumptions. Watch or listen to the full episode of The Flow with Bob Martin for a thoughtful conversation about education, critical thinking, democracy, and what it means to remain curious in a changing society. If you value meaningful conversations that challenge assumptions and explore the issues shaping our communities, subscribe, follow, and stay connected with The Flow. 📌 Video Chapters 00:00 – The Wisdom of Timing 04:39 – Why Lee Became a Teacher 10:15 – Diversity Changes the Classroom 16:18 – Are Students Still Learning? 23:55 – Education, Politics & Truth 31:53 – Why America Became So Polarized 36:42 – Wealth, Government & the American Dream 45:38 – Finding Better Voices for America 49:43 – Faith, Politics & Moral Structure 52:32 – What Can We Do? 💬 Featured Quotes “No matter what you think you don't know, you know a lot more than a teenager does.” - Lee Knapp “Your empathy increases so much when you talk to someone.” - Lee Knapp “I just gave up trying to control the narrative and it's enough to honor the commandment to love one another, you know, and love yourself.” - Lee Knapp "There is a difference there. And I think that we have to say what's so, but we are restrained from doing that in the overall desire to be fair.” - Bob Martin 💡 Episode Key Takeaways Information isn't the same as knowledge. The ability to synthesize evidence and form a coherent understanding is essential. Critical thinking protects against manipulation. Developing the ability to question claims and recognize weak arguments is fundamental to civic life. Education can build empathy. Exposure to people with different backgrounds can challenge assumptions and expand our understanding of others. People are more than political labels. Lee argues that excessive tribalism can prevent us from seeing individuals as individuals. Connection requires participation. When people feel disconnected from community, Lee suggests that sometimes we have to actively go out and make something happen. 🔗 Connect with Lee Knapp Website: https://imhistorybook.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lee.knapp.16 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lee-knapp-81150b8/?isSelfProfile=false Substack: https://leeknapp.substack.com/?utm_campaign=profile_chips 🔗 Connect with Bob Martin: Substack: https://iambobmartin.substack.com/publish/home Podbean: https://podcastbobm.podbean.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@IamBobMartin Email: contact@theflowmedia.com Explore My Published Books https://authorbobmartin.com/ OR To explore my blogs, vlogs, podcasts, videos, and books, or to send Bob Martin a message please click here: https://theflowmedia.com #CriticalThinking #Education #AmericanEducation #Democracy #TheFlowWithBobMartin
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    59 mins