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The B2B Playbook

The B2B Playbook

By: Kevin Chen & George Coudounaris
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Selling Business to Business? Trying to do everything, but not sure if any of it works? We’re here to help! We're Kevin and George - digital marketing professionals who are here to share with you the RIGHT plan so you can get your amazing business growing online. We’ve waded through the noise, made the mistakes, and found what works so you don't have to. We also share tips, tricks and templates from our upcoming playbook and insights from successful people in the industry. If you’re in a B2B business and like to see your marketing work for you, then this is the podcast for you! Subscribe to get the latest from the B2B Playbook first. Join our CLUB of B2B owners and marketers on LinkedIn sharing their experiences https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13980317/ Want more? Check out our weekly articles on https://theb2bplaybook.com/ Remember, with the right plan, anyone can grow their business online!Copyright 2026 Kevin Chen & George Coudounaris Economics Leadership Management & Leadership Marketing Marketing & Sales
Episodes
  • #234: How to Use Partnerships to Scale (B2B Partnership Strategy) - Bryan Williams
    Jun 15 2026

    In this video, we sit down with Brian Williams from Hockey Stick Advisory to break down how B2B companies can actually build partnerships into a real revenue channel, not just a logo wall.

    We cover:

    → Why partnerships needs to be a top down strategic decision, not a side experiment

    → The foundations most companies are missing before they even hire a partnerships manager

    → How to pick the right partners using a capacity, commitment, mutual customers and capability matrix

    → Why partnerships takes a two year cycle and how to set realistic expectations with your leadership team

    → How AI is changing the way partnership ops and rev ops teams work together

    If you are a B2B marketer, CRO or founder who knows partnerships should be part of your growth mix but has no idea how to actually build it out properly.

    Tune in and learn:

    → How to align your whole leadership team on what partnerships is and what it isn't

    → How to validate your partner categories before you activate anything

    → What a mutual success plan looks like and how to operationalize partners like a sales team

    → Why referral leads close faster and how to make that engine predictable

    → How to build a line of sight to partnerships ROI that your CFO and CRO will actually get behind

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    🔗 Links + CTAs

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    🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course

    🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school

    💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency

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    SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook

    SUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter

    GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/

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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why Partnerships Is a Real Revenue Channel

    00:48 Meet Brian Williams from Hockey Stick Advisory

    01:47 How the Partnerships Landscape Has Shifted

    03:05 The Foundations Most Companies Are Missing

    06:30 Why Partnerships Has to Be a Genuine Exchange

    07:51 Are You Actually Partnerships Ready?

    09:47 How to Identify the Right Partners

    13:18 The Biggest CRO Blocker With Partnerships

    16:10 How AI Is Changing Partnerships

    19:06 Why Partnerships Managers Burn Out Early

    22:04 The Two Year Cycle Explained

    24:02 When Partnerships Doesn't Work

    25:26 The Big Hire Mistake to Avoid

    28:26 The Partnership Revenue Gap Calculator

    31:53 Where to Find Brian and Hockey Stick Advisory

    S08 E233 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #partnerships #b2bsaas #partnermarketing #ecosystemledgrowth #gotommarket #channelpartners #digitalmarketing

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    34 mins
  • #233: Attribution in B2B - Why It's Broken (And How To Fix It)
    Jun 11 2026

    In this episode, we break down why B2B marketing attribution is broken and what you should actually be doing instead to measure what's working without losing your mind.

    We cover:

    → Why multi-touch attribution keeps lying to you and what it's actually measuring

    → Why ad platforms are deliberately making attribution harder for us as marketers

    → How to blend quantitative and qualitative data to get a real picture of what's driving revenue

    → Why being data influenced beats being data driven every single time

    If you are a B2B marketer or demand gen lead who's tired of attribution tools that promise clarity and just deliver more confusion.

    Tune in and learn:

    → Why multi-touch attribution is click obsessed and built on disappearing data

    → How to layer in marketing mix modeling and incremental testing without drowning in complexity

    → Why qualitative signals like "how did you hear about us" are more valuable than most attribution tools

    → How to communicate attribution as a range, not a definitive number, to your leadership team

    → How to align sales, CS and finance on what attribution can and can't tell you

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    🔗 Links + CTAs

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    🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course

    🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school

    💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency

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    SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook

    SUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter

    GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/

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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why Attribution Keeps Lying to You

    00:50 Welcome + Season 8 Overview

    01:56 The Five B's Framework Explained

    02:54 Why B2B Attribution Is So Much Harder Than B2C

    04:08 The Real Problems With Multi-Touch Attribution

    07:35 Why Privacy Changes Are Making This Worse

    08:32 Attribution Software Is Just Repackaged Last Click

    09:55 How Long B2B Cycles Break Attribution Models

    10:56 The Blended Measurement Framework

    17:10 Why Qualitative Signals Are Your Most Honest Data

    18:57 How to Communicate Attribution Uncertainty to Leadership

    20:56 Don't Overpromise on Attribution Internally

    23:30 Why Industry Benchmarks Are Mostly Useless

    25:37 Key Takeaways

    27:06 Final Thoughts and Where to Learn More

    S08 E234 - The B2B Playbook

    #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #marketingattribution #marketingmeasurement #digitalmarketing #b2bsaas #leadgeneration #revenuemarketing #demandgen

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    32 mins
  • #232: The Secret to Crushing Demand Gen in 2026 and Beyond
    May 31 2026

    In this episode, we break down category entry points and how to use LinkedIn ads to plant your brand in buyers minds way before they're even ready to buy.

    We cover:

    → What category entry points actually are and why they matter for B2B demand gen

    → Why LinkedIn ads is such a strong fit for targeting these key buyer moments

    → Real examples of category entry points you can build campaigns around

    → If you are a B2B marketer trying to build pipeline and stay top of mind with your ICP before they enter market.

    Tune in and learn:

    → How to identify the moments that trigger buyers into market

    → How to use LinkedIn ads targeting to reach the right people at the right time

    → Why cataloging your market beats relying on intent data platforms

    → How to turn category entry points into ad creative and thought leadership content

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    🔗 Links + CTAs

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    🎓 Join our Demand Generation Program: https://theb2bplaybook.com/demand-generation-course

    🧠 Learn how to drive revenue across your organisation with CRO School: https://theb2bplaybook.com/cro-school

    💼 Need help running your own LinkedIn Thought Leadership Ads? https://theb2bplaybook.com/linkedin-ads-agency

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    SUBSCRIBE to our channel: https://www.youtube.com/@theb2bplaybook

    SUBSCRIBE to our newsletter: https://theb2bplaybook.com/newsletter

    GET the latest CONTENT: https://theb2bplaybook.com/

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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Why Category Entry Points Change How You Advertise

    00:01 What the Five B's Framework Is

    00:04 Category Entry Points Defined

    00:05 Why LinkedIn Ads Fits So Well for B2B

    00:08 How to Use ICP Lists and Thermographic Targeting

    00:12 How Long Demand Gen Actually Takes

    00:14 Saturation, Frequency and the 95/5 Rule

    00:19 Category Entry Point 1: Contract Renewals

    00:23 Why Cataloging Beats Signal Sensing Platforms

    00:26 Category Entry Point 2: Growing Pains and New Hires

    00:29 Category Entry Point 3: Slowing Growth Rate

    00:31 Real World Example: The Will Smith Slap Ad

    00:33 You Don't Have to Dream Up Category Entry Points

    00:34 How Entry Points Become Ad Creative and Content

    00:35 Key Takeaways

    S08 E232 - The B2B Playbook #b2b #b2bmarketing #demandgeneration #leadgeneration #digitalmarketing

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    40 mins
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