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The Avian Behavior Podcast

The Avian Behavior Podcast

By: Hillary Hankey
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If you are into animal behavior and positive reinforcement training, you're in the right spot. World renown animal behavior consultant, falconer, and educator Hillary Hankey dives deep with conversations and case studies on parrots, birds of prey as well as horses, dogs and all kinds of animals on topics of behavior as well as nutrition, ethology, and problem solving.Hillary Hankey © 2026 Biological Sciences Science
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  • What to Do When a Bird of Prey Won't Step Up
    Jul 9 2026

    What should you do when a bird of prey avoids the trainer, flushes during an approach, or will not step onto the glove? Where do you even start with a bird of prey?

    Before focusing on the step-up, take a closer look at the environment. Housing, perch placement, privacy, approach paths, and opportunities to move away can all affect whether a bird is able to learn and participate.

    In this lesson, I use the early training of an African Fish Eagle to explore:

    • How to assess a bird's environment, temperament, and learning history
    • Why immobility is not always calm behavior
    • How inappropriate housing can increase avoidance
    • How space can function as a reinforcer
    • Why trainers should build movement and husbandry skills before prioritizing the step-up
    • How a broader behavioral repertoire gives a bird more ways to succeed

    Although this lesson features an African Fish Eagle, these principles apply broadly to hawks, falcons, eagles, owls, vultures, and other ambassador birds that are difficult to approach or reluctant to engage. We rely on principles based on the constructional approach and using space as a reinforcer, starting off by rating birds on an avoidance scale from 1-5 that helps us formulate a starting point.

    This podcast episode is adapted from Building Confidence with Birds of Prey, a course in the Avian Behavior Lab.

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    This video is adapted from Building Confidence with Birds of Prey, a course in the Avian Behavior Lab. You can get your free 14 day trial with the code AVIAN

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    42 mins
  • From our Owl Ambassador Masterclass: Health and Quarantine Considerations with Your New Owl
    Jun 5 2026

    This is an excerpt from our Masterclass on How to Raise an Ambassador Owl. We added this lesson after fielding many questions about quarantine procedures, and wanted to ensure that an ambassador owl would still have a viable start to their career in conservation education. Here we cover specific signs of illness, potential practices that can lead to stress, and what to do if your facility puts your new ambassador under strict quarantine protocols. For visuals, you can check out our video.

    For the full Masterclass, check out https://avianbehavior.thinkific.com/courses/owl-ambassador

    For more classes in our subscription based online learning program, use the code AVIAN for a free 14 day trial https://avianbehaviorlab.com

    For free resources, including our podcast, blog, and best practice guidelines, check out https://avian-behavior.org

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    54 mins
  • 81 The Expert Card
    May 12 2026

    What does it mean to be an expert, and what happens when expertise becomes a shield from scrutiny rather than a commitment to precision?

    In this episode, Hillary examines the role of authority, rhetoric, and responsibility in professional animal training spaces, especially as conference season brings new ideas, disagreements, and uncomfortable conversations to the surface. Prompted by recent concerns from trainers who felt confused or unsettled by remarks at a professional conference, this episode draws a careful line between scientific discourse and rhetorical labeling.

    Here we ask broader questions about what our community should expect from its leaders. How do we assess skill without moral ranking? How do we talk about positive and negative reinforcement without turning functional processes into ethical identities? And how do we create professional spaces where newer trainers, women, consultants, employees, and others with less social power can ask questions without fear?

    Hillary discusses the problems with vague categories like "grade school" trainers, and why labels like these do not tell us anything meaningful about fluency, judgment, safety, or the animal's learning. She also revisits the constructional approach, clarifying that it is not about "replacing" behavior or choosing one type of reinforcement over another, but about building repertoires, identifying functional contingencies, and expanding degrees of freedom.

    The episode then pivots toward stronger models of skill assessment, including the Dreyfus model, as a more useful way to evaluate trainer development through observable criteria, contextual judgment, autonomy, adaptability, and standard of work.

    At its heart, this episode is a call for more rigorous, compassionate, and accountable leadership in the animal training field. Expertise should make us more precise, more open to revision, and safer to learn from — not harder to question.

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    40 mins
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These podcasts have been extremely interesting, refreshing and informative and have already helped me with my birds and given me food for thought for the future. I feel I cannot overstate by suggesting that everyone who lives or works with birds should give these episodes a listen!

Invaluable Information, Absolutely Recommend!

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