Stop doing the job they posted and start navigating the workplace that actually exists. In this episode, we reveal the hidden political maps that dictate how decisions are really made inside your organization.

Service design professionals love to believe good work speaks for itself. The reality is much more complicated. The official org chart is usually pure fiction, and the real choices happen in rooms you are not in. Marc sits down with Zac Heisey and Jeff Hoekwater to unpack the realities of the political organization. They explain how to draw a map of reality so you stop wasting months on work that is already dead in the water.

🎧 In This Episode

• The Danger of the Job Description: Why doing exactly what you were hired to do can actually get you in trouble.
• The Unofficial Map: How to chart out the real power structures and influence in your company.
• Behind Closed Doors: Uncovering the truth about how and where decisions actually get made.
• Picking Your Battles: How to know when a decision is simply above your pay grade and not worth fighting.
• Job Hunting Masterclass: Practical insights to help you find a team that aligns with the realities of the work.

What is one thing about your role that was entirely missing from the job description? Drop your answer in the comments below or reach out to us directly!

If you want to spend your energy on work that actually has a chance of seeing the light of day, hit the subscribe button so you never miss a guide to the real service design industry.

Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact!

Take care,

~ Marc

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00:00 Intro

05:00 Zac's Journey

11:00 Job Hunt

18:30 Networking

21:45 Unofficial Map

26:00 Delight Politics

31:15 Moving On

45:00 Bloopers

52:00 Success Metrics

56:45 Conclusion

--- [ 2. LINKS ] ---

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• Jeff’s LinkedIn -https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffhoekwater

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Are you exhausted from constantly chasing the next career milestone without ever feeling truly satisfied? Join us as we explore how to step off the treadmill and shift your focus from endless professional growth to genuine human flourishing.

🎧 In This Episode

• The competitive swimmer mentality and how it secretly drives your service design career.
• Why real rest feels completely incompatible with the standard corporate calendar.
• Unlearning the limiting beliefs about success and security that keep you running 24/7.
• Navigating abrupt career stops and the lessons learned from the closure of IDEO Munich.
• How to transition your mindset from chasing metrics to finding joy in your practice.

Ida Persson is a designer focused on social impact and climate work. After spending 20 years as a competitive swimmer and later working at IDEO Munich, she learned the hard way what it means to finally slow down and question the endless hustle.

What actually brings you joy in your work? We want to hear from you. Drop a comment below with your thoughts or subscribe to the channel for more conversations on building a sustainable design career.

Enjoy the conversation and by all means take a break .

Take care,

~ Marc

[ 1. GUIDE ]

00:00 Introduction

03:15 Achievement Treadmill

09:00 The Cost

12:45 Leaving IDEO

16:45 Corporate Culture

20:30 Creative Price

21:45 Ethical Lines

31:45 Design Shifts

36:30 Status Quo

42:30 True Flourishing

46:00 Open Ideas

50:15 Human Dignity

56:30 Finding Joy

57:15 Takeaways

[ 2. LINKS ]

• LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/idampersson/

• DesignShifts - https://www.designshifts.org/

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Sending applications into the void and facing endless final round rejections will break anyone's confidence. Learn how to disconnect your self worth from your career and discover where the market actually wants your skills.

In this episode, we sit down with Gabriela to discuss the brutal reality of the modern job market. After surviving seven grueling application processes only to receive seven rejections, she learned a massive lesson. Rejection is almost never about your actual talent. We explore how to navigate job search fatigue, stop taking hiring decisions personally, and rethink your entire professional identity.


🎧 In This Episode:

• The Rejection Trap: Why getting cut in the final interview rounds is not a reflection of your talent or worth.

• Identity Shift: How to stop tying your personal identity to a specific job title.

• Personal Futures Exercise: A practical framework you can run on your own career to find your next step.

• The Hidden Job Market: How to read what the industry is quietly telling you (spoiler: it is not happening on LinkedIn).

• Defining True Success: Why you need to stop inheriting other people's goals and find your purest vision of success.


Gabriela leaves us with a powerful question: What is your absolute purest idea of success? We want to hear from you! Drop a comment below to share your take. If you found this episode helpful, please subscribe and share it with a friend who might need a confidence boost today.


Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact, title or no title!

Be well,

~ Marc

--- [ 1. GUIDE ] ---

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Background

05:15 Navigating Layoffs

10:45 Self-Worth

16:45 Career Moves

20:00 Rejection

28:30 Visibility

33:30 Mentoring

40:45 Redefining Success

45:15 Job Hunting

51:15 Future Roles

55:00 Final Thoughts

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Are your customers tired of dealing with slow and broken systems? Discover what happens when everyday people start using powerful new tools to bypass your organization entirely.

For years, companies and public institutions have delivered bad services simply because users had no other choice. Today, the tide is turning. Civic technology expert Mai-Ling Garcia (Johns Hopkins, city government) joins the show to explain how accessible tech is empowering citizens and customers to build their own solutions. If your organization refuses to adapt, your users will simply route around you.

🎧 In This Episode

• The End of Bad Service: Why organizations can no longer rely on a lack of alternatives to trap their customers.

• The Age of the Workaround: How cheap and powerful tech tools are letting communities bypass broken systems in a single afternoon.

• Frontlines of Public Innovation: Mai-Ling shares her firsthand experiences with empowered users in civic tech and healthcare.

• Humans in the Loop: Why human judgment and decision-making remain critical as AI accelerates our world.

What is a service you are currently working around or wish you could bypass entirely? Drop a comment below to share your thoughts!

Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact!Be well,

~ Marc

[ 1. GUIDE ]

00:00 Introduction

03:00 Public Sector Role

05:00 The Empathy Trap

08:45 Real-World Backfire

16:45 Power & Decisions

21:00 Tech & Design

35:00 Citizen Workarounds

43:45 Automation Boundaries

56:15 Key Takeaways

[ 2. LINKS ]

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• Ling & Company - https://lingandcompany.com/

• Bold Public Works - https://boldpublicworks.com/

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Are you tired of the relentless AI marketing hype but know you can't afford to ignore it? Discover how to stop blindly applying AI and start mastering it as a malleable "design material" to build impactful, user-centered services .

It’s time to stop buying into the stories big tech companies want us to believe about what Artificial Intelligence can and can’t do. Slapping AI mindlessly onto every project doesn't just create bad user experiences. It can do real harm.

To set a better example for the service design industry, host Marc sits down with Ovetta Sampson. With a resume that includes Director of UX for Machine Learning at Google and AI design leadership roles at Microsoft and Capital One, Ovetta doesn't just talk theory. She runs Right AI to help teams adopt AI safely, responsibly, and effectively. In this conversation, she breaks down exactly how to understand AI's unique properties, navigate its limitations, and mold it into exactly what you need.

In This Episode:

• The Design Material Mindset: How to stop fearing AI and start shaping it like clay to get the outcomes you want.
• Steering the Machine: Practical techniques for guiding generic LLMs to reliably produce high-quality, specific results.
• The Context Crisis: Why understanding your users' real-world context is about to become more important than ever before.
• When "Wrong" Becomes Dangerous: Why AI will always make mistakes, and how to identify the exact point where those errors become harmful.
• Breaking the Model: Why you need to start "messing around" and intentionally trying to break AI tools to build your own grounded mastery.

If you found value in this episode, please hit the Subscribe button on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts so you never miss a conversation. Share this episode with a fellow service designer who needs to hear this!

As always, enjoy, and keep making a positive impact!

~ Marc

[ 1. GUIDE ]

00:00 Intro and AI Sycophancy

03:15 Mindless vs. Mindful AI

06:45 Dangers of Automation Bias

10:00 The Humanizing Trap

17:45 Design as a Verb

24:30 Emergent AI Behavior

27:30 AI Confidence Levels

36:15 The Illusion of AI Memory

39:00 Principle 1 of Mindful AI

43:30 Library vs. Netflix Analogy

49:45 Designing for Failure

55:15 The Socio-Technical Challenge

01:01:45 Advice for Designers

01:06:00 Learning Resources

01:09:00 Redefining the Designer

01:11:15 Outro

[ 2. LINKS ]

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Want to secure executive buy-in? Stop waiting for a strategic brief from leadership, learn how to pitch solutions that solve your VP's biggest headache.

Tired of doing incredible journey mapping work only to realize you still aren't invited to the room where important business decisions are made? In this episode of the Journey Management Playbook, Martin and I break down a highly specific, 5-slide pitch designed to get you a seat at the executive table. Learn how to stop being viewed as just the "journey maps person" and start navigating boardroom politics like a pro.

📌 In This Episode

• Why asking your VP what could get them fired is the ultimate shortcut to tapping into executive urgency.
• A tactical, step-by-step breakdown of how to write your own strategic brief and present a high-value proposition.
• How to handle heavy pushback from stakeholders and turn a painful "no" into meaningful progress.
• How to reposition customer experience (CX) from a minor workshop activity into a core business solution.

We’ve put together an Objection Response Cheat Sheet with the most common pushbacks and ways you can navigate them. You can download it for free using the link in the show notes.

Enjoy and keep making a positive impact.

~ Marc

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[ 2. GUIDE]

00:00 Introduction

05:30 Season Two Recap

06:30 Insights vs. Decisions

09:15 The Journey Manager

11:15 Owner vs. Manager

15:45 The First Week

20:15 Finding the Owner

25:45 Sophia's Story

36:45 The Horizontal Role

39:45 Monday Rhythm

45:15 Executive's Monday

46:45 Building Briefs

51:15 Closing the Loop

54:15 Season Wrap-Up

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Are you tired of design feeling boxed in by limiting beliefs and endless support tickets? In this episode, we explore how to break free from the status quo and tackle meaningful, system-level challenges that actually change lives.

There isn't a single service design professional who got into this industry to just solve support tickets all day. You got into this to make a positive impact. But what happens when the systems we operate in are designed to keep things exactly the way they are?

To answer that, Marc sits down with Meghan Bausone, who recently earned her Doctor of Design degree. Drawing from her firsthand experience redesigning maternity care, Meghan shares actionable advice on how to find opportunities to experiment, overcome the frustrations of a rigid environment, and turn your desire to question everything into your greatest professional superpower.

Being stuck in a system doesn't have to be paralyzing. It’s time to recognize the opportunities around you, or even better, create them yourself.

🎧 In This Episode

• The Reality of Modern Design: Why the industry feels boxed in and how to break free from the daily grind.

• Hacking the Status Quo: How to find opportunities to experiment in environments resistant to change.

• Designing Better Maternity Care: Meghan’s firsthand insights into navigating and improving systems that have been stuck for ages.

• Overcoming Limiting Beliefs: Recognizing our own mental roadblocks about what design is "supposed" to do.

• Question Everything: Why having the courage to be "annoying" or disruptive is actually a designer's ultimate superpower.

If you want to find ways to work on challenges that truly matter, this conversation is for you! What is the biggest limiting belief you’ve had to overcome in your design career? Let us know in the comments!

Don't forget to Subscribe to stay updated on future episodes that help you make a positive impact through design.

Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact.

~ Marc

[ 1. GUIDE 📺 ]

00:00 Welcome to episode 258

00:00 Introduction

00:45 Megan's Background

03:30 Invisible Constraints

05:45 Path to UX Design

09:15 Maternal Health Crisis

12:00 Pursuing a Doctorate

14:15 Improving Systems

21:00 Embracing Biases

25:15 Localized Solutions

31:00 Questioning HCD

37:15 Leverage Points

41:45 Managerialism Ideology

49:45 Institutional Deserts

56:00 Practical First Steps

59:15 Final Reflection

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