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More Health, Less Healthcare

More Health, Less Healthcare

By: Peter Boland PhD
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Are you ready to rethink what health really means—and what it takes for us to achieve it? Welcome to the “More Health. Less Healthcare” Podcast, your front-row seat to a revolution in American healthcare, inspired by the game-changing book by Peter Boland.

Healthcare doesn’t have to be defined by endless bills, mounting debt, and a system that prioritizes profits over people. What if there’s a better way that means more health for everyone, fewer unnecessary costs, and a renewed sense of fairness in how care is delivered?

The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast takes you inside the heart of a growing movement: one that values equity, transparency, collaboration, and, above all, real outcomes for real people. Hosted by thought leaders committed to making a difference, each episode starts with a bold question: Are we ready to do the right thing, for the right reasons, at the right price?

Drawing from over 100 real-life case examples and interviews, this podcast isn’t just another critique of what’s broken. It’s your practical playbook for solutions that work—proof of concept that eradicating health disparities and cutting out waste can lead to healthier communities, a stronger economy, and a more ethical society.

Learn how the hidden cost of inequity in American healthcare is draining hundreds of billions of dollars from our economy every year, and how millions of Americans endure the crushing burden of medical debt. Discover why up to a third of all healthcare spending in the U.S.—a staggering $1.4 trillion each year—has no benefit for patients and only adds to the harm. The “More Health. Less Healthcare” podcast uncovers these hard truths and turns them into a call for accountability and courage.

We face a crucial choice: keep overspending on sickness care or rebalance our priorities to invest in real health creation. COVID-19 revealed the glaring gaps in our system and the disproportionate impact on minority communities, bringing discrimination and broken incentives to the forefront. The podcast tackles these issues head-on, with stories and strategies from those leading the way on public health, end-to-end care coordination, and the rebuilding of trust in our healthcare institutions.

Why do traditional healthcare financing models fail us? How can we redirect wasted resources to programs that create health? What can individuals, practitioners, and policymakers do right now to drive systemic change, eliminate unnecessary care, and refocus on community-based solutions?

Each episode is a masterclass in what it means to be accountable for the health of our communities. We draw on the wisdom of healthcare’s past, rooted in Hippocrates’ timeless principle—first do no harm, then try to prevent it—and update it for the 21st century. Our guests bring you groundbreaking ideas and proven methods to advance equity, commit to health creation, and embrace transparency and fairness as the guiding values of a new era.

Don’t miss the conversations that matter from how to slash 26-46% of healthcare waste, to making public health programs robust statewide and nationwide, to amplifying voices that have turned health equity from an ideal into a reality.

Whether you’re a patient, a clinician, a policymaker, or someone who simply cares about the future of health in America, “More Health. Less Healthcare” is your go-to resource for hope, honest dialogue, and practical steps toward a fairer, healthier tomorrow. Subscribe now and join the national conversation about how we value health, the urgent reforms we need, and how—with the right leadership and commitment—we can all experience more health and less healthcare.

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Episodes
  • Redefining Community Health: Lessons in Listening, Trust, and Accountability
    Aug 5 2026

    In the latest episode of More Health, Less Healthcare, Peter Boland takes us on a journey through innovative models for community health investments that genuinely listen and respond to community needs—not just on paper, but in practice. Here’s what you need to know from this insightful installment:


    Peter Boland underscores the pitfalls of top-down solutions (“paternalistic and ineffective”) and explains why real change starts with asking communities what they need, not telling them what to accept. Programs must pivot based on this feedback, which, as Peter Boland notes is surprisingly rare in healthcare.


    • Presbyterian Health (Albuquerque, NM): Grounded in four core beliefs—shared value of health, cross-sector collaboration, strong systems integration, and equity as a non-negotiable requirement. Their commitment to equitable, community-driven design sets a new industry standard.
    • Bon Secours (West Baltimore): CEO George Kleb insists community members, not executives, set the agenda. Their “four ways of being”—asset-based, relational, collaborative, and dutiful—position the community as the true expert.
    • Blue Cross Blue Shield North Carolina: Tackling social determinants of health at scale with multi-sector partnerships, and investing in training diverse rural providers.
    • Hawaii Community Foundation: Pioneering “trust-based philanthropy” focused on unrestricted, responsive grants. Their process empowers grantees to use funds for what works locally—not just what fits a funder’s theory.
    • University Hospitals Kansas City: Their cultural health navigator role merges interpretation, community outreach, and intelligence-gathering, bringing patient voices directly to hospital leadership.
    • Vanderbilt Medical Center: By screening for health literacy, they discovered a fifth of patients didn’t fully understand medical instructions—a finding with major implications for patient outcomes.
    • NYC WIC Program: First-person data collection revealed bureaucratic friction preventing eligible mothers from accessing benefits, prompting policy and process changes.


    Across every example, Peter Boland observes that lasting impact comes from a relentless commitment to listening, adapting, and partnering with communities as the authority on health needs—not imposing solutions from above.


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    23 mins
  • How Employers Can Use Their Buying Power to Change Healthcare for Good
    Jul 29 2026

    In our latest episode, Peter Boland explores a transformative question: What if employers used their full leverage to reshape employee healthcare — and invested the savings back into their communities?


    Most U.S. employers have enormous purchasing power and a unique relationship with their workforce, yet often act as passive consumers of traditional insurance products. Peter Boland argues that this status quo is not inevitable — and shares examples of what’s possible when employers become proactive health investors instead.


    Peter Boland breaks down the Health Rosetta model, built around eight core components:

    • Transparent networks with known prices and outcomes
    • Individualized health stewardship
    • Advanced primary care with aligned incentives
    • Active, independent plan management
    • Transparency in pharmacy benefits
    • Rigorous oversight of major and outlier cases
    • High-performance plan design
    • Transparent, aligned relationships with benefits advisors


    In short: Remove conflicts of interest, align incentives, and focus on actual outcomes.


    With proven models and compelling results, Peter Boland challenges employers to stop being passive purchasers. The tools and blueprints are already here; what’s needed is a proactive choice at the board level to invest wisely—and reinvest dividends back into the community.

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    15 mins
  • Housing as Healthcare: When Communities Decide Where Investments Go
    Jul 22 2026

    Peter Boland dives deep into the transformative power of community-driven housing investments and how shifting incentives—and power—can radically improve health equity.


    Featured Discussions


    Healthy Homes Des Moines

    • Tackling childhood asthma and allergies at the source, this program goes directly into homes, identifies environmental triggers, and provides meaningful repairs and supplies. The lesson? Fix the environment, not just the patient.

    The SPARC Initiative in Oakland

    • Through collective action from over 500 local stakeholders, SPARC is moving affordable housing and anti-displacement efforts forward by putting decisions in the hands of residents. Real systemic change: the City of Oakland now rewards developers who partner with the community.

    Bon Secours' Audacious Shift in Baltimore

    • In one of the boldest moves yet, Bon Secours sold its century-old hospital and reinvested funds to build stable housing, educational spaces, and job opportunities. Their philosophy: work for the community, not just with it.


    Key Takeaways


    • Community is the True Unit of Intervention. Programs deliver better results when residents decide what's needed and where investment goes.
    • Structural Change Beats Status Quo. Changing local government and health system policies shifts real power to those most affected.
    • Tangible Returns. Investments in stable housing yield social returns that rival, if not outperform, traditional financial instruments—and improve health in the process.


    Empowering communities isn’t just a theory—it’s happening now, and it’s changing lives. Be sure to catch Peter Boland's insightful analysis and real-world examples by listening to the full podcast.

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    12 mins
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