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Max + Chris Show

Max + Chris Show

By: Max & Chris
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Welcome to our cutting-edge podcast where we chat with some of the most innovative and forward-thinking entrepreneurs in the commercial real estate world. From brokers and developers to startup founders and investors, we dive deep into the stories behind their successes, and explore the latest trends in the industry.

Our guests don't just talk shop. We're all about bringing the realness, and we're not afraid to chop it up on different topics relating to life and business.

If you're an entrepreneur looking to disrupt the status quo, or a commercial real estate professional looking for inspiration and fresh perspectives, this is the podcast for you. Our guests share their insights, challenges, and victories, and offer practical tips for navigating the world of commercial real estate.

So whether you're a seasoned pro or just starting out, join us as we explore the dynamic world of entrepreneurship in commercial real estate, and discover the cutting-edge strategies and innovations that are transforming the industry.

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Episodes
  • Scott Gorsline on the Griffins, Grand Rapids Soccer Club, The Rise & the City's Growth
    Oct 15 2026

    Scott Gorsline, Vice President of DP Fox Ventures, joins us to discuss the growth of Grand Rapids through sports, entertainment, and development.

    We talk about the Grand Rapids Griffins, the new downtown soccer stadium, the Rise Volleyball team and how investments in sports are helping shape the future of the city.

    From attracting visitors and creating economic activity to building a stronger downtown, Scott shares his perspective on the role sports play in Grand Rapids' continued growth.

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • GRAND RAPIDS GOLD’S STEVE JBARA BACK-TO-BACK NBA G LEAGUE EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR
    Aug 25 2026

    Join us for the wild ride of how an employee looking for a new opportunity, turned entrepreneur and became the owner and president of an NBA G League team the Grand Rapids Gold.

    Steve Jbara is an entrepreneur and the owner and president of the Grand Rapids Gold, the NBA G League affiliate of the Denver Nuggets. After starting his career in the automotive industry, Jbara took an unconventional leap into professional sports, purchasing a G League franchise in 2013 and bringing it to Grand Rapids. Under his leadership, the organization has become one of the league’s top-performing franchises, culminating in being named the 2025–26 NBA G League Franchise of the Year, while Jbara became the first executive in league history to win Executive of the Year three consecutive years. Beyond basketball, Jbara is an entrepreneur and investor with interests spanning advertising, technology, finance and other ventures.

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    47 mins
  • Sam Cummings – Turn Into the Torpedo
    Mar 30 2026

    From where Grand Rapids was to where it’s going this episode dives into the evolution of the city through one of its most influential developers.

    Sam Cummings has spent nearly three decades preserving Grand Rapids’ history while reshaping its future. Often referred to as the city’s leading champion of urban real estate, Sam has revitalized some of the community’s most iconic and long-neglected buildings including pioneering the city’s first office-to-multifamily conversion.

    With a deep passion for history, art, and architecture, Sam approaches development as more than business it’s stewardship. He continues driving new vision, vibrancy, and vitality into the urban core.

    This conversation explores legacy, risk, long-term conviction, and what it truly takes to “turn into the torpedo” when betting on a city’s future.

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    1 hr and 26 mins
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