The Multiple Sclerosis Association of America is pleased to present our podcast episode “Beyond the Chart: Strengthening Self-Advocacy Through Communication – PART 2” as the second and final in a two-part series. Hosted by Shelby Bassili of MSAA, this program is part of MSAA’s 2026 MS Awareness Month theme – Your MS, Your Voice: The Power of Self-Advocacy. Our guests once again are Annette Howard, MD and patient advocate Kate Durack, MPS. Dr. Howard is the Medical Director of the Multiple Sclerosis Institute of Texas in Houston and a member of MSAA’s African American Advisory Board. Kate serves as Director of MSIN Communication & Patient Focus at MSAA and was diagnosed with MS 10 years ago. In this final episode in our series, “Beyond the Chart,” you will hear the conclusion of the chat with our esteemed guests, where Dr. Howard and Kate dive into what happens after the doctor’s appointment and how to keep the conversation going between visits – and beyond the chart.

This episode was produced and recorded at Gradwell House Recording in Haddon Heights, NJ. Music provided by The New Anxiety (Tim Recuber and John Masino III).

For a transcript of this program, please click here.


MSAA strives to provide useful, up-to-date information, on matters of concern to MS patients and their families. This material is intended for general informational purposes only, and it does not constitute medical advice. You should not use the information presented as a means of diagnosis or for determining treatment. For diagnosis and treatment options, you are urged to consult your physician.

The Multiple Sclerosis Association of America is pleased to present our podcast episode “Beyond the Chart: Strengthening Self-Advocacy Through Communication – PART 1” as the first in a two-part series. Hosted by Shelby Bassili of MSAA, this program is part of MSAA’s 2026 MS Awareness Month theme – Your MS, Your Voice: The Power of Self-Advocacy. Our guests are Annette Howard, MD and patient advocate Kate Durack, MPS. Dr. Howard is the Medical Director of the Multiple Sclerosis Institute of Texas in Houston and a member of MSAA’s African American Advisory Board. Kate serves as Director of MSIN Communication & Patient Focus at MSAA and was diagnosed with MS 10 years ago. This initial episode highlights practical ways patients can ensure their voices are heard beyond what’s written in the chart and what actually helps create meaningful human connection between patients and their healthcare providers.

This episode was produced and recorded at Gradwell House Recording in Haddon Heights, NJ. Music provided by The New Anxiety (Tim Recuber and John Masino III).

For a transcript of this program, please click here.


MSAA strives to provide useful, up-to-date information, on matters of concern to MS patients and their families. This material is intended for general informational purposes only, and it does not constitute medical advice. You should not use the information presented as a means of diagnosis or for determining treatment. For diagnosis and treatment options, you are urged to consult your physician.