Film producer Gill Holland joins Kyle Meredith to trace his nearly 30-year career that adds up to around 150 films, from early Sundance breakthroughs like Hurricane Streets to documentaries such as Flow: For Love Of Water and the beloved Big Star doc, plus cult favorites like Greg The Bunny. Holland digs into what a producer actually does, why rejection is basically part of the job description, how the ’90s indie boom cracked Hollywood open, and why that spirit might be poised for a comeback in the age of streaming and AI. Along the way, he explains why Louisville became home, how Kentucky keeps finding its way into his work, and what’s next, including new projects with Sarah Silverman and Bonnie “Prince” Billy.

Kyle Meredith sits down with Jessica Williams, Christa Miller, Ted McGinley, and Michael Urie to unpack how Shrinking season 3 on Apple TV might be the show’s richest chapter yet. The cast talks about how the series keeps deepening its characters without losing the jokes, from Gabby’s emotionally loaded monologues and Brian realizing he doesn’t have life figured out, to Derek finally stepping out from behind the zen-smile and Liz living at full-throttle anxiety year-round. Miller dives into the show’s carefully chosen needle drops and long-gestating music moments, Urie breaks down that unforgettable Les Misérables singalong watched silently by Harrison Ford, McGinley reflects on playing Derek as an “iceberg,” and Williams explains how she ramps up for scenes that hit hard right out of the gate.

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Talking with Kyle Meredith, Petula Clark and Don McLean both reflect on what it means to keep creating decades into a career, each from their own corner of the musical universe. Clark walks through the making of Living For Today, from recording in a tiny garden studio in London to shaping the title track’s light-to-serious turn, reconnecting with Tony Hatch, and navigating the nerves (and respect) that come with reinterpreting classics—from Peggy Lee’s “Fever” to the Beatles’ “Blackbird”—while embracing songs like “Downtown” as lifelong companions rather than burdens. McLean, meanwhile, digs into the long road behind Botanical Gardens, rejecting the idea that he lives solely in the shadow of “American Pie” or “Vincent,” and instead framing the album as a mix of styles, metaphors, and ideas that took years—sometimes decades—to finally surface. From songwriting as a visual, almost cinematic act to letting songs wait until they’re ready, both artists land on the same truth: the work doesn’t give up on you, it just keeps knocking until you let it back in.

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