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That Systems Show with Yael Keon

That Systems Show with Yael Keon

By: Yael Keon
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There's a spreadsheet nobody is allowed to touch and two tools that have never spoken to each other. Welcome to That Systems Show, where we make the marketing, sales and delivery your business runs on a whole lot easier, with a strategist's eye, not only a tech one. Business Strategy and Systems Consultant Yael Keon brings you solo episodes, behind-the-scenes looks at other people's setups, and experts worth pinching ideas from. Tool-agnostic. Anti-hustle. Short on purpose.

© 2026 Yael Keon
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Episodes
  • The 3 Questions I Ask Every Client
    Jun 28 2026

    If you've ever stared at a blank screen wondering what to write in your next email, there's a good chance you've been skipping straight to the content without doing the thinking that matters first. Before any strategy, any automation, and any single email, there are three questions worth asking. And once you start using them, you'll never approach email the same way again.

    These questions work at every level of your email marketing: from your big picture strategy all the way down to the individual email you're about to send. They cut through the noise and get you clear on what your emails need to do.

    You'll learn:

    • The one question that stops you writing emails that feel "valuable" but completely miss the mark
    • Why every email needs to ask something of your subscriber (even when it has nothing to do with buying)
    • How to reverse-engineer your email content from the outcome you want, so nothing you send is wasted effort

    Most email marketing advice focuses on what to write. These three questions are about what to think before you write anything. They push you to get clear on who you're talking to, what you need them to do, and what is standing between them and a yes.

    The result? Emails that feel relevant, build a genuine two-way relationship, and move people toward your offer.

    Want to see more of what I get up to when I’m not podcasting?

    • Hang out with me on Instagram @yaelkeon
    • Get the Free Mini Training: Beyond Words
    • Join Engaging Emails
    • 1-1 Consulting

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    13 mins
  • Your Email Marketing, Your Rules (Sort Of)
    Jun 14 2026

    You've seen the templates. The step-by-step formulas. The "just be consistent" advice that makes you want to throw your laptop across the room. And maybe you've started strong, followed the ideal system... and then completely fallen off. Not because you lack discipline. Because the system was never built for your real life.

    In this episode, I flip the usual email marketing conversation and ask a different question: instead of "what's the best strategy?", what if you started with "what's realistic for me?"

    You'll learn:

    • Why building your email marketing around an idealised version of yourself is what's setting you up to fail
    • How to work with your natural style (starter or finisher, batch creator or inspiration-driven) instead of constantly fighting against it
    • How to factor in your real season of life and create a minimum plan that actually gets used
    • The non-negotiables that still need to happen (and how to make peace with them without overcomplicating things)

    Most email marketing advice hands you a swipe file and says "copy this." But when something stops working or life changes, you're stuck, because you never understood the why behind it. This episode is about understanding those principles so you can build a version that fits your brain, your business, and your life.

    A system you use beats any perfect system sitting in draft mode. Every time.

    Want to see more of what I get up to when I’m not podcasting?

    • Hang out with me on Instagram @yaelkeon
    • Get the Free Mini Training: Beyond Words
    • Join Engaging Emails
    • 1-1 Consulting

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    22 mins
  • The Ultimate Email Marketing Shortcuts
    Jun 1 2026

    You've seen the ads. Fill-in-the-blank templates for every week of the year. Swipe files with "my exact welcome sequence, word for word." Custom GPTs that write your emails for you. The shortcut economy promises you can bypass the hard part of email marketing if you just have the right resource.

    But a shortcut only works when you know where you're going.

    You'll learn:

    • Why the shortcut economy keeps most people moving faster in the wrong direction
    • Why swipe files aren't useless, but why reaching for them first is the long way around
    • The three real email marketing shortcuts that do the work once and keep paying you back

    The appeal of a shortcut is real. When you're juggling client work, family, and everything in between, the idea that one template or one prompt could just get it done is attractive. And that's exactly what the shortcut economy is built on: the promise that you can skip the part where you have to think.

    But the thinking is the part that makes it work. The three shortcuts in this episode aren't about skipping that. They're about doing the thinking once, properly, so you never have to do it from scratch again. You stop starting over every time you sit down to write an email. You stop second-guessing whether your design is actually showing up in people's inboxes. You stop missing the moment when a new subscriber is most ready to hear from you.

    The work you put in once keeps going without you. That's what a real shortcut looks like.

    Want to see more of what I get up to when I’m not podcasting?

    • Hang out with me on Instagram @yaelkeon
    • Get the Free Mini Training: Beyond Words
    • Join Engaging Emails
    • 1-1 Consulting

    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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    16 mins
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