Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach on the vital difference between knowing about God and Christianity versus truly knowing the real Jesus — and being fully known by Him. They explain why so many believers possess information about God yet lack the intimate relationship where Jesus touches the hidden, reserved places of the heart. Drawing from the humanity of Jesus who laid aside the full expression of His deity to walk as a man among us, and from Matthew 7:23 where He declares “I never knew you,” they reveal how the cross is not simply the forgiveness of sins but the door into a transformative journey — the first work of grace that opens the way to the second work of the Holy Spirit. This powerful teaching exposes the danger of living from religious information, performance, defense mechanisms, and masks instead of vulnerable, unfiltered relationship, and calls believers to stop merely admiring the door and instead walk through it into full transformation. They unpack how Jesus always initiates relationship, how true knowing produces formation, trust, participation, identity change, and heart living, and how God’s new mercies every morning — even neurologically offering 30,000 fresh chances daily through the brain’s rewiring — invite us into deeper maturity with the One who is real, relevant, and relational for New York City, America, and the world.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Intimacy With Jesus vs Knowing About Him, Matthew 7:23 “I Never Knew You”, Jesus the Door (Dalit), First Work of Grace vs Second Work of Grace, Come As You Are But Leave As I Am, Relationship vs Information and Religion, Defense Mechanisms and Masks, New Mercies Every Morning & Brain Rewiring, Jesus Initiates Relationship, Vertical and Horizontal Cross, Real Relevant and Relational Jesus for NYC and America, From First Love to Mature Transformation

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach on the kingdom principle of one accord. They explain why true agreement must begin with heaven first — not with personal understanding or selfish desires. Drawing from the humanity of Jesus, who laid aside the full expression of His deity to stay in perfect agreement with the Father’s will, they reveal how self-agreement creates dangerous neural pathways that strengthen wrong expectations, dull spiritual senses, and turn desires into idols. This powerful teaching exposes the misuse of Scripture (such as Matthew 18) and calls believers to stop trying to get God to agree with them and instead align with what heaven is saying.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: One Accord, Agree First Then Understand, Kingdom vs Worldly Agreement, Jesus’ Humanity Agreeing with the Father, Self-Agreement & Neural Pathways, The Danger of “Touch and Go” Agreement, Misuse of Matthew 18, Agreeing with Heaven Not Creations, Heart Mouth and Mind in Congruence, Handling Scripture Legally, Lucifer’s Fall as a Warning, Paying the Price for Wrong Agreement

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas teach that real and relevant connection with Jesus leads to authentic relationship through everyday conversation and listening—tuning our inner ear to the Holy Spirit’s constant flow, surrendering our opinions, and becoming a bending reed moved by His wind rather than competing with our own voice.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Real, Relevant & Relational, Everyday Communication & Conversation, Listening Before Speaking, Inner Ear & Holy Spirit Flow, Surrendering Opinions, Bending Reed, Conversational Narcissism, Jesus as the Man Building Relationship, Selective Attention

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas unpack the “Hour of Relevance,” showing how Jesus’ humanity connects to our everyday lives when His grace is received not merely as a cover for sin but as divine enablement that actively transforms our personality, character, and temperament—moving us from denial and license to genuine change, obedience, and Christlike formation.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Hour of Relevance, Grace as Divine Power for Change, Grace vs. License, Personality/Character/Temperament, Filtering & the Inner Ear, Holy Spirit as Net, Repentance & Transformation, Grace & Truth, Relevance Through Surrender

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas conclude by affirming that Jesus’ humanity is not a weakness but the very means through which God expresses His divine nature, and that allowing Jesus to fully inhabit our humanity completes both His expression and our transformation.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Humanity as Divine Expression, Jesus Felt Full Human Range, No Defense Mechanism in Jesus, Allowing Jesus to Inhabit Our Humanity, Completion Through Surrender, Real Jesus in Everyday Life

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas explore what it means for Jesus to be fully man, showing that He experienced the full range of human emotion and limitation yet never let feeling become lord, so that He could fully express His nature through our surrendered humanity.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Fully God Fully Man, Jesus Experienced Human Emotion, Vulnerability of Jesus, Humanity as Gift Not Curse, Expression Through Surrendered Humanity, No Defense in Jesus

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas introduce Jesus as real, relevant, and relational, moving beyond roles and authority to present Him as the living Person who wants to be known in everyday humanity and relationship.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: Jesus Real Relevant Relational, Beyond Roles and Authority, Humanity of Jesus, Connection Over Information, Everyday Relationship, First Love as a Person

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

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Show Notes: In this episode, Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas emphasize that God’s story can only be authored and fulfilled in the name of Jesus, and that surrendering authority to Him (rather than trying to control the narrative ourselves) is what releases true transformation and alignment with the Father’s will.

Hosts: Dr. Robyn Kassas and Dr. Nathan Kassas

Topics Covered: The Name of Jesus, Authority and Authorship, Surrendering Control, Jesus as the Author, Top-Down Story, Alignment Over Control

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About the program: “First Love” with Dr. Robyn and Dr. Nathan Kassas is a life-transforming broadcast that helps believers and seekers reclaim God’s story through healing, truth, and restoration. Each episode unpacks why it works, how it works, and the process to walk it out—making Him real, relevant, and relational, and returning hearts to Jesus as their first love

Support the Show: https://www.torcc.org/

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.