What if the internet isn't just a tool—but a force reshaping how we think, relate, and evolve?

In this wide-ranging and provocative conversation, media theorist and Team Human author Douglas Rushkoff joins me to explore the deepest questions of our digital age. Framed by a powerful moment from Star Trek: The Motion Picture—where a new form of intelligence is born—we ask whether humanity is witnessing its own transformation… or losing control of the systems it created. Is this the beginning of a new kind of life… or a critical turning point for humanity?

Listen to rethink everything you assume about technology, consciousness, and the future.

Helané Wahbeh, ND, MCR, is the Director of Research at the Institute of Noetic Sciences and an adjunct assistant professor in the Department of Neurology at Oregon Health & Science University. Dr. Wahbeh is the author of some 100+ peer-reviewed publications and the book The Science of Channeling: Why You Should Trust Your Intuition and the Force That Connects Us All.

What if your wandering mind is the key to understanding reality itself? In this deep-cut interview, Dr. Jonathan Schooler joins us to explore the frontiers of consciousness—from meta-awareness and mind-wandering to whether quarks, livers, or blood clots might possess "micro-consciousness."