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Behind the Facade

Behind the Facade

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Behind the Facade is a monthly podcast hosted by Jake Gorry, Director of Proline, and Daniel from Complex Facade Install.

Having both started in the construction industry at around 14 years old, Jake and Daniel bring decades of hands on experience working across facade installation, major projects, and running construction businesses.

Each month they sit down to have an honest conversation about the industry. From facade systems and project challenges to the lessons learned from years on site and behind the scenes of running construction companies.

The goal is simple. Real conversations about construction from the people who live it every day.

Behind the Facade 2026
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Episodes
  • #7 - The Broken System Costing Australian Construction Millions (And How to Fix It)
    Jun 17 2026

    In Episode 7 of Behind the Facade, Jake from Proline Group and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd sit down for a raw conversation about time, speed, systems, leadership, automation, pressure, and what it really takes to run a fast moving construction business.

    This episode dives into the hidden cost of wasted time in construction. Jake and Daniel break down how small delays, poor planning, slow systems, unstructured leadership, and 15 minute gaps can compound across a project and destroy profit margin.

    They also talk about Proline Fab’s latest investment into automation, including new machinery, coil loading systems, AI driven wastage software, barcoding, offsite fabrication, and how better systems can help get product to site faster, reduce rework, support data centre projects, and create more value for builders and clients.

    The conversation also covers leadership routines, daily planning, pressure, decision making, productivity blocks, site management, hospital projects, tower projects, logistics, value management, pricing, meetings, team culture, and the mindset required to keep growing without losing control of the business.

    If you work in construction, facades, cladding, glazing, fabrication, project management, site management, subcontracting, trades, estimating, operations, or business ownership, this episode gives a real look at how speed, systems and leadership separate the businesses that grow from the businesses that get left behind.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro and morning training

    01:19 - Business update and Proline Fab growth

    03:23 - New machinery, automation and fabrication systems

    05:23 - Why time compounds across construction projects

    06:28 - Leadership schedules, productivity and 15 minute increments

    10:00 - Using AI to remove emotion from business decisions

    13:42 - Morning planning, daily structure and site leadership

    18:59 - Productive blocks and keeping teams moving

    21:19 - Flow is fast, and fast is money

    25:00 - Site leaders, paperwork and staying close to the action

    29:51 - Hospital projects, tower projects and different site challenges

    35:00 - Logistics, loading, access and non conventional thinking

    40:00 - Handling pressure and making decisions quickly

    45:00 - Perspective, family, health and business stress

    50:00 - The cost of success and doing the hard work early

    55:00 - Pricing, value management and finding project efficiencies

    01:00:00 - Meetings, value creation and not wasting time

    01:04:00 - Project highlights and successful site culture

    01:07:00 - Team, promotions, fundraising and leadership moments

    01:10:00 - Built Not Brought award and recognising the team

    ABOUT BEHIND THE FACADE

    Behind the Facade is a construction podcast hosted by Jake Gorry, Director of Proline Group, and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd. The podcast goes behind the scenes of the facade, cladding, glazing and construction industry, sharing real conversations about business, leadership, site work, project delivery, culture and the people building the industry from the ground up.

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    1 hr and 12 mins
  • #6 - Adam Hall: From Bankruptcy To Building a $100M Brand in Construction
    Jun 3 2026

    In Episode 6 of Behind the Facade, Jake Gorry from Proline Group and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd sit down with their first ever guest, Adam Hall, Managing Director of AH Fencing. They have a raw conversation about the brutal realities of scaling a subcontractor business, nationwide expansion, trade cash flow, leadership, and what it really takes to survive the early years.

    This episode dives into the true story of how Adam and his business partner Matt built a multi-state company from scratch after a previous employer went bust. They share the massive wake-up call of losing $200,000 in year one, waking up to find the ATO had wiped their bank account to $0, and how they recovered to build a highly profitable nationwide operation.

    They also break down the transition from a gun tradie to a world-class leader, the power of organic growth versus acquisition, building custom ERP software using Claude, dealing with cultures of entitlement on site, and why you need a level of sustained delusion to back yourself in this industry.

    If you work in construction, fencing, project management, site management, subcontracting, fabrication, or business ownership, this episode is packed with hard-learned, practical insight from people living it every day.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro: Welcoming first guest Adam Hall

    01:08 - Organic growth vs interstate acquisition

    02:24 - Building culture and setting standards across multiple states

    08:14 - Leadership structures and fixing the site to office disconnect

    14:31 - Extreme ownership, actionable core values and positive reinforcement

    19:54 - Setting clear expectations and avoiding the entitlement loop

    27:04 - The origin of AH Fencing: Two tradies with zero money

    29:27 - Wiped to $0: Surviving the first year loss and the ATO wake-up call

    35:17 - Trading tools for coaching and introducing commercial acumen

    42:58 - Subbie metrics: Knowing your costs vs the danger of undercutting

    53:50 - Why gun workers don't always make great business leaders

    01:04:57 - Using AI to build custom tools and accelerating your path to $100M

    ABOUT BEHIND THE FACADE

    Behind the Facade is a construction podcast hosted by Jake Gorry, Director of Proline Group, and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd. The podcast goes behind the scenes of the facade, cladding, glazing and construction industry, sharing real conversations about business, leadership, site work, project delivery, culture and the people building the industry from the ground up.

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    1 hr and 28 mins
  • #5 - Australia's Construction Industry Is About To Explode: Nobody Is Ready
    May 20 2026

    In Episode 5 of Behind the Facade, Jake Gorry from Proline Group and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd sit down for a raw conversation about business growth, leadership, fabrication, work ethic, mentorship, and what is coming next for the construction industry.

    This episode dives into the real day to day of running fast moving facade and construction businesses. Jake and Daniel break down their early morning routines, how they structure their days, how Proline’s in house fabrication division has changed the business, and why the next 12 to 24 months could be a massive period for construction.

    They also talk about the importance of saying no to the wrong jobs, choosing the right clients, building strong teams, bringing pride back into the craft, and why mentorship needs to become a bigger part of the industry again.

    If you work in construction, facades, cladding, fabrication, project management, site management, subcontracting, or business ownership, this episode is packed with practical insight from two people living it every day.

    Timestamps:

    00:00 - Intro and Episode 5

    01:22 - Why structured conversations matter

    03:10 - Recording meetings, notes, AI and action items

    04:31 - Tracking time, structure and productivity

    07:03 - Why routine matters in work, business and life

    08:53 - Daniel’s daily routine in season

    15:02 - Jake’s daily routine and Proline Fab operations

    20:39 - Building practical systems inside the fabrication shop

    25:03 - How Proline Fab changed the business

    34:23 - Why construction is about to get extremely busy

    38:23 - Being selective with work and knowing when to say no

    52:20 - Finding the missing link inside the business

    54:54 - The handwritten resume story

    01:01:43 - Mentorship, pride in the craft and quality workmanship

    01:10:21 - Project highlights, biggest wins, pressures and shout outs

    ABOUT BEHIND THE FACADE

    Behind the Facade is a construction podcast hosted by Jake Gorry, Director of Proline Group, and Daniel from Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd. The podcast goes behind the scenes of the facade, cladding, glazing and construction industry, sharing real conversations about business, leadership, site work, project delivery, culture and the people building the industry from the ground up.

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    Follow Jake Gorry and Proline Group

    Personal LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jake-gorry-87b30628b/

    Company LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/company/proline-aus

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prolinegroupau/

    Follow Daniel Alizzi and Complex Facade Install Pty Ltd

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/complex-facade-install/

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    #BehindTheFacade #ConstructionPodcast #FacadeIndustry #Cladding #ConstructionAustralia #MelbourneConstruction #ProlineGroup #ComplexFacadeInstall #ConstructionBusiness #ProjectManagement #Fabrication #ConstructionLeadership

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    1 hr and 21 mins
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