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Behind The Curtain

Behind The Curtain

By: Presented by Chord Real Estate with hosts Steve Luther and Van Hohe
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”Behind the Curtain” is a podcast presented by Chord Real Estate, in which hosts Steve Luther and Van Hohe go deep into the heart of Nashville’s dynamic landscape. The show features deep conversations with the innovators, creators and leaders who are shaping the city through music, business and beyond. Each episode reveals the stories, passions and dreams that make Nashville unique.Copyright 2025 All rights reserved. Economics Social Sciences
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  • Mastering Modern Marketing in a Fragmented Digital World with Valerie Pantaleo
    May 8 2026

    In this episode of Behind the Curtain, hosts Steve Luther and Van Hohe sit down with Valerie Pantaleo — a 22‑year marketing veteran, account executive at Comcast Advertising, and president of VPI Media. From New York print rooms at the dawn of the internet to pioneering early digital TV ad placements, Valerie brings a rare, insider perspective on how media, data, and consumer behavior have evolved over the last two decades.

    Valerie breaks down the real state of modern advertising — the rise of AI‑driven targeting, the dangers of fake data and bots, the fragmentation of consumer attention, and why so many businesses waste money on the wrong platforms. She also shares powerful stories from her career: helping small businesses scale from “one man and a truck” to local celebrities, navigating the Wild West of digital marketing, and advising brands across industries from home improvement to healthcare to luxury.

    This conversation is a masterclass in how to think about marketing in 2026 — what works, what doesn’t, and how business owners can protect their budgets, build brand equity, and reach the right audience across screens.

    Episode Highlights

    From Print to AI‑Driven Digital:

    Valerie recounts her early days in New York newspapers — including the moment she realized the internet would change everything — and how she became one of the first reps to sell digital TV ads.

    “We were doing commercial insertions using AI 14 years ago… before most people even knew what AI was.”

    The Wild West of Digital Marketing:

    She explains why so many businesses get “sucker punched” online — from fake bots to bad data to misleading metrics — and why real‑time, first‑party household data is the new gold standard.

    How Consumers Actually Watch Content Today:

    From 18–34 year‑olds binging on-demand to 50+ audiences glued to live TV, Valerie breaks down the viewing habits that determine where your ads should (and shouldn’t) go.

    Branding vs. Lead Gen — Why Most Businesses Get It Wrong:

    Valerie reveals why companies overspend on cheap clicks, underestimate the power of video, and fail to build long‑term brand equity.

    “Do you want to whisper… or do you want to shout?”

    The Power of Targeted, Multi‑Screen Campaigns:

    She explains how Comcast uses household data, Experian insights, and premium placements to target ultra‑affluent buyers, golf enthusiasts, college football fans, and more — all with one vendor and one invoice.

    The Future of Social Media & AI:

    Valerie shares her concerns about where digital content is headed — and why businesses must be more intentional than ever about their brand image.

    Featured Guest: Valerie Pantaleo

    Account Executive, Comcast Advertising

    President, VPI Media, Inc.

    With over 22 years of experience across print, radio, TV, and digital, Valerie is known for blending creative strategy with data‑driven insights to help businesses grow. She has advised brands across industries including home improvement, legal, financial services, healthcare, and luxury — and has helped clients scale from local unknowns to household names.

    Connect with Valerie:

    📧 valerie_pantaleo@comcast.com

    📱 615‑427‑8018

    🔗 LinkedIn: Valerie Pantaleo

    #MarketingStrategy #DigitalAdvertising #BrandBuilding #ComcastAdvertising #NashvilleBusiness #MediaBuying #AIinMarketing #SmallBusinessGrowth #BehindTheCurtain

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    1 hr and 33 mins
  • The Dream Maker: Navigating the Evolution of Mortgage Lending with Tammie Gravlee
    Apr 24 2026
    In this episode of Behind the Curtain, hosts Steve Luther and Van Hohe sit down with Tammie Gravlee, President of Mortgage at Bank of Tennessee. With over 40 years of industry experience, Tammie shares her inspiring "Hotel California" journey—starting as a receptionist and working her way up to becoming one of the most respected leaders in mortgage banking.

    Tammie peels back the layers of the mortgage world, offering a simplified explanation of how rates are truly set, the impact of shifting political administrations on lending regulations, and the rising importance of "Non-QM" loans for today’s nontraditional workforce. From personal stories of passion and perseverance to insights on the future of AI in banking, this conversation explores what it truly takes to protect the American Dream of homeownership.

    Episode Highlights
    • From Receptionist to President: Tammie recounts her 40-year career trajectory, proving that through long hours, a willingness to learn, and a passion for service, anyone can reach the top of the mortgage industry.
    • The Truth About Interest Rates: A deep dive into the misconception that the Fed controls everything. Tammie explains why home buyers should actually be watching the 10-year yield and the bond market to understand rate fluctuations.
    • The Rise of the Nontraditional Earner: Discover why "Non-QM" (Non-Qualified Mortgage) volume is projected to hit $80 billion as more people move away from 8-to-5 jobs toward flexible, remote, and self-employed income streams.

    "At the end of the day, I'm doing what I'm doing... to get someone in a home, create a job, raise a family, have a backyard... if you are not willing to serve, it’s not the business for you." — Tammie Gravlee

    Featured Guest: Tammie Gravlee, CMB®, AMP

    Tammie Gravlee is the President of Mortgage at Bank of Tennessee. She holds the prestigious Certified Mortgage Banker (CMB) designation and is a dedicated advocate for the industry, frequently spending time in Washington, D.C., to discuss lending policy with senators.

    Connect with Tammie:

    • LinkedIn: Tammie Gravlee
    • Phone/Text: 205-296-9940
    • Email: tgravlee@bankoftennessee.com

    #MortgageBanking #Homeownership #NashvilleRealEstate #InterestRates #CareerJourney #FinancialLiteracy #NonQM #AmericanDream #Leadership #BehindTheCurtain

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    1 hr and 14 mins
  • From Fine Art to Bespoke Build: The Art of Intentional Design with Kurt McKeithan
    Apr 9 2026

    In this episode of Behind the Curtain, hosts Steve and Van sit down with Kurt McKeithan, the creative force behind McKeithan Design Studio. A Nashville-based designer and builder with a background in fine art, Kurt shares his journey from growing up in Georgia and Europe to repairing Dutch masterpieces in Beverly Hills, and finally founding his own bespoke design-build firm. Kurt discusses the delicate balance between being an artist and an entrepreneur, the importance of "never stopping learning," and why he prefers high-end, one-of-a-kind projects over mass production. From drawing kitchen layouts directly on a client’s drywall to building secret doors with interactive riddles, this conversation explores how deep craftsmanship and a "photographic memory" for detail can transform a living space into a personal sanctuary.

    Episode Highlights The "Beverly Hillbillies" Move to Paris: Kurt explains how moving from Marietta, Georgia, to Paris and London during his youth provided a unique fine art education that would be impossible to find in the U.S. Repairing Masterpieces: Discover how a "fake it until you make it" moment led to a high-stakes job in Beverly Hills repairing 300-year-old Dutch still-life paintings. Design as Living Sculpture: Kurt shares the philosophy of "bespoke" design, where every project is tailored to the individual's personality rather than current trends like the "shiplap" craze. The Secret Doors of Nashville: A look into Kurt’s love for "interactive treasure," including a project featuring secret doors, dioramas, and a phone booth that responds when you pick up the receiver. The Future of Design: Kurt geeks out on the intersection of 3D printing and traditional materials, such as 3D-printing leather textures onto metal bathroom trim.

    "Money is not the thing for me. It's the creativity part of it... if you can wake up and do something different every day in that same field and feel like you're doing something to make that person have a better life, that's the stuff I like." — Kurt McKeithan

    Featured Guest: Kurt McKeithan Kurt McKeithan is the president and founder of McKeithan Design Studio. He holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Painting and Sculpture from Otis College of Art and Design. His firm specializes in custom furniture, high-end kitchens, and full-scale interior environments that prioritize originality and precision. Connect with Kurt: Website: mckeithendesign.com Instagram: @mckeithendesign Phone: (615) 424-5633

    #BespokeDesign #NashvilleDesign #FineArt #CustomFurniture #InteriorArchitecture #McKeithanDesignStudio #BehindTheCurtain #Craftsmanship #LuxuryInteriors #3DPrintingDesign

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    1 hr and 5 mins
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