Heath and I finish our discussion about the bridge between a pastor and a business owner. Moving from a pastor to a contractor and what to think about all the questions surrounding it.

Me and Heath discuss his pivot from working in the church, to working in the field as a business owner.

Lots of great perspective that isnt normally gotten out there or talked about.

"Is God ok with money? How to I both serve Him and grow my business. I dont have much confidence surrounding any of it"

How you show up for yourself greatly determines the outcome of pretty much anything.

So much chaos going on right now. Heads spinning, everything is a righteous crusade... what now?

Do you know when opportunity comes your way and what it looks like? But even more important... do you know what to do with it...

Joey Halek joins me as a co-host in this eppisode as I walk through the awesome experience to visit the 1st Phorm facility with collaboration with Blacktop Banter, Dirt World, and Buildwitt. So many takeaways from this experience and how it truly opened my eyes even wider. Worth the listed for anyone.

What does it look like when we start to operate with a mentality of "you just do". How any why to the high performers do it?

WHY do we do it?

WHAT does it actually look like that not many people talk about?

And what does faith have to do with it all?

Some amazing perspective in this conversation that will really connect alot of dots for many. The conversation comes from a lot of experience and friendship.

We hear all these buzz words about mastermind groups, networks, communities, coaching, mentors, ect ect... but are they really worth it? How do you know if its all hype or if its truly beneficial?

James has a first hand experience from someone who is new to the space and has really seen the benefits of a healthy network and community when used properly.