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ABA Business Leaders

ABA Business Leaders

By: Stephen Smith
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Join us as we dive deep into the world of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), exploring real-world challenges and practical strategies to improve the quality, ethics, and sustainability of ABA services. Hosted by April & Stephen, the team behind 3 Pie Squared, each episode brings actionable insights for practice owners, clinicians, and leaders in the field—whether you’re just getting started or scaling your business.

Expect candid conversations, expert interviews, and honest advice about supervision, billing, hiring, training, compliance, and more. Our goal? To help you build an ABA practice that serves clients ethically and effectively—while supporting your team and growing your business with purpose.

🔗 Learn more about our courses, handbooks, and consulting services at www.3piesquared.com.

2025 Stephen Smith
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Episodes
  • The Power of ABA and Speech Therapy with Rose Griffin
    Jun 18 2026

    What happens when a Speech-Language Pathologist (SLP) becomes a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA)? In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, April and Stephen sit down with Rose Griffin, MA, CCC-SLP, BCBA, founder of ABA Speech, to discuss the intersection of speech therapy and applied behavior analysis.

    The conversation explores common misconceptions between disciplines, how ABA companies can successfully integrate speech services, and why communication goals should be developed through genuine interdisciplinary collaboration. Rose also discusses the importance of developmental milestones, AAC implementation, ethical collaboration, and her upcoming book designed to help professionals better support communication development.

    How can BCBAs and Speech-Language Pathologists work together more effectively?

    Rose explains why collaboration between ABA and speech professionals can be challenging and shares practical strategies for building stronger interdisciplinary partnerships that improve outcomes for autistic learners.

    Should ABA companies hire Speech-Language Pathologists?

    Learn the benefits, challenges, and key considerations for ABA organizations looking to integrate speech therapy services into their practice, including what leaders should know before hiring an SLP.

    What communication skills should behavior analysts understand?

    Rose discusses foundational communication development, language milestones, joint attention, AAC, and why understanding speech and language development helps BCBAs create more effective interventions.

    This podcast was produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio

    Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand? Reach out here: https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

    Resources & Links

    Pre-order link of Rose Griffin’s book: https://abaspeech.lpages.co/say-it-with-me-book-page/

    Business Essentials List

    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    ABA Business Leaders Support Group:

    https://forms.office.com/r/LLpAHCXUN8

    Schedule a consultation with Stephen

    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment

    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

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    35 mins
  • Nervous System Regulation, Authentic Leadership, and the Humanity Behind ABA
    Jun 11 2026

    What happens when behavior analysts shift from compliance to connection?

    In this episode of ABA Business Leaders, Stephen and April Smith talk with Sarah Moore, CEO of The Jai Institute for Parenting, founder of Dandelion Seeds Positive Parenting, and author of Peaceful Discipline. They explore nervous system regulation, emotional safety, authenticity, and what it means to show up as a human being.

    Drawing from her expertise in attachment science and regulation, Sarah explains how emotional suppression affects relationships, leadership, and connection. The conversation highlights how many ABA professionals are trained to “shut it off,” and how that mindset often carries into both business and personal life. They also discuss what it takes to create genuine emotional safety for ourselves and others.

    Questions To Be Answered

    • What is nervous system regulation and why does it matter?
    • Why is authenticity important?
    • How does emotional suppression affect leaders?
    • Are we too focused on compliance?
    • How can you regulate during stress?

    Can unhealthy coping mechanisms prevent emotional growth?

    Stephen, April, and Sarah discuss how substances, food, and other forms of emotional avoidance can temporarily numb difficult feelings while ultimately making long-term regulation more difficult. The conversation emphasizes building healthier coping skills and developing a wider range of emotional tools.

    Resources & Links

    Business Essentials List

    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    ABA Business Leaders Support Group

    https://forms.office.com/r/LLpAHCXUN8

    Schedule a Consultation with Stephen

    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment

    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

    MarginKeepers:

    https://3piesquared.com/business-affiliate/MarginKeepers

    Produced by Max McLellan of MKM Audio.

    Want to start or grow a podcast for your business or brand?

    https://www.mkmaudio.com/contact

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    1 hr and 5 mins
  • How Do We Define Quality ABA Services
    Jun 4 2026

    How do we define quality ABA services with Bryant Silbaugh

    What is quality assurance in ABA, and how can behavior analysts measure service quality more effectively?

    In this episode of the ABA Business Leaders Podcast, Stephen and April Smith speak with Dr. Bryant Silbaugh, behavior analyst, researcher, author, and Founder of the National ABA Service Quality Network (NASQN), about the systems, processes, and measurements that drive high-quality ABA services. Bryant explains how ABA organizations can define quality, evaluate clinical performance, establish meaningful outcome measures, and build systems that support continuous improvement. He shares practical insights from his work in autism treatment, behavioral intervention quality management, and ABA service delivery research.

    The conversation covers quality assurance frameworks, goal setting, key performance indicators (KPIs), clinician self-evaluation, treatment outcomes, and the role of organizational systems in delivering effective ABA services.

    Key Topics Covered

    What quality assurance means in applied behavior analysis

    How to measure ABA service quality

    Common service delivery blind spots in ABA organizations

    Defining quality indicators for behavioral interventions

    The relationship between clinical quality and business performance

    His research has focused on operant variability, pediatric feeding disorders, autism intervention, and ABA service delivery quality. He is the author of Quality Control for Behavior Analysts: How to Manage Behavioral Intervention Quality in Autism Service Settings, a practical framework for measuring and managing intervention quality in autism service settings.

    Bryant is the Founder and CEO of the National ABA Service Quality Network (NASQN), Founder and Chair of the IGNITE Quality Conference, and Director of Clinical Excellence, Quality, and Research at Gateway Pediatric Therapy.

    Have a Question for Stephen and April?

    Call the ABA Business Leaders Hotline: (737) 330-1432

    Resources & Links

    Registration pages for supervision huddles: https://www.nasqn.org/

    Business Essentials List

    https://www.3piesquared.com/blog/the-essential-list-for-a-successful-business_24

    ABA Business Leaders Support Group

    https://forms.office.com/r/LLpAHCXUN8

    Schedule a Consultation with Stephen

    https://3piesquared.com/stephen-booking-page

    Free ABA Business Readiness Assessment

    https://3piesquared.com/aba-business-readiness-assessment

    ABA Billing Tips Guide

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Billing_Tips

    ABA Business Leaders Podcast CEUs

    https://3piesquared.com/productDetails/ABA_Business_Leaders_Podcast_CEUs

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    1 hr and 22 mins
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