Your two venerable hosts welcome the great Carolyn Niewand from Melbourne, Australia to speak on the Australian school system and some of the traits that differentiate the Australian and American systems. As part of the discussion, the benefits or pitfalls of these various distinctions will be discussed as well as how well such methods would translate within the American system. She is informative, smart and very interesting. Dr. Bourgeois and Mr. Miller hope you enjoy the our conversation with Ms. Niewand.

As the two venerable hosts return, they do so with the man and the legend - Dr. Alex Fingers. During the course of the podcast, the three gentlemen discuss the nature of security in schools, the efficacy of such measures and questions related to personal liberties and freedom in the face of security issues. For the sake of the podcast, Dr. Fingers and Mr. Miller avoid any direct discussions about either the Steelers or the Ravens and as a result, a good time was had by all. Worthy of a listen and thought provoking.

The two estimable hosts, after a detour of a survey that highlighted the best college football helmets, tackle the subject of creative tension. Starting with some of the greatest jazz groups and their work, the hosts debate whether tension among bandmates is essential for each to be at their best. The hosts then attempt to broaden this concept not only to other types of music but any form of collaboration - in industry or in education. What does it mean to lead a group of people, managing personalities, conflict and attempt to reach the best of what they can do? The hosts address all of these issues in what is certainly an episode worth listening to.