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The Coffee Think Tank Podcast

The Coffee Think Tank Podcast

By: Garrett @ Fresh Cup Magazine
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A show about emerging trends, ideas, and innovations in the coffee industry. Created by Fresh Cup Magazine (freshcup.com), a coffee publisher.Garrett @ Fresh Cup Magazine Economics
Episodes
  • The Path to 300+ Locations and the Yemeni Coffee Boom w/ Hamzah Nasser [Haraz Coffee]
    Aug 6 2026

    In this episode of Coffee Think Tank, Hamzah Nasser—founder and CEO of Haraz Coffee House—talks about how a single Yemeni coffee shop in Dearborn, Michigan turned into a 59-location brand with 250 franchisees in development.

    Hamzah opened the first Haraz in April 2021 to serve his own community, and never expected it to scale. By the time Haraz reached its eighth location, in Charlotte, North Carolina, the menu and customer base had already shifted far beyond its Yemeni roots. Today, the brand is signing franchise deals across the U.S. and Canada, sourcing coffee through an active conflict zone, and building out a matcha program that now rivals coffee for share of sales.

    In this conversation, we get into...

    • How Haraz's menu shifted from mostly Yemeni drinks to mostly lattes and matcha as the brand expanded beyond Dearborn
    • Why Hamzah calls his late-night, alcohol-free cafes "halal bars," and how that shapes the business
    • The custom evaporated milk, pistachio sauce, and spice-grading Haraz uses to keep competitors from copying its drinks
    • How Haraz manages a coffee supply chain running through Yemen, including reserve stockpiling against shipping disruptions
    • What Haraz looks for in a franchisee, and the support infrastructure built to protect the brand at scale
    • Why matcha and tea now make up roughly a third of Haraz's sales
    • Haraz's expansion into Canada, and why Hamzah is eyeing Saudi Arabia next

    Chapters

    • 00:02 Introduction to Haraz Coffee House
    • 00:13 What Makes a Yemeni Coffee Shop Distinct
    • 03:26 Yemeni Drinks, Explained: Jubani and the Tradition Behind the Menu
    • 04:13 Late Hours and the "Halal Bar" Concept
    • 04:56 How the Menu Transformed Beyond Yemeni Tradition
    • 07:03 Why Late-Night Hours Are Profitable
    • 08:13 From One Store to 59: Was Rapid Growth the Plan?
    • 11:27 Inside the Haraz HQ Team
    • 12:32 Building Franchise Expertise In-House
    • 13:49 How Franchise Leads Find Haraz Organically
    • 14:54 Who's Actually Applying to Franchise Haraz
    • 15:39 Competing in a Crowded Yemeni-Coffee Category
    • 18:29 The Custom Milk, Pistachio Sauce, and Spice Grading Behind the Drinks
    • 20:04 What Franchise Support Actually Looks Like
    • 22:35 Dictating Store Design and Build-Out
    • 23:43 Sourcing Coffee From Yemen Amid War
    • 25:52 Why Haraz Can't Just Switch Origin Countries
    • 27:18 Expanding Into Canada
    • 29:04 Adapting the Menu (and Language) for Quebec
    • 29:20 Where Haraz Is Headed Globally
    • 31:53 Why Saudi Arabia Is the Next Target Market
    • 33:05 Matcha's Rise at Haraz
    • 33:50 Inside the Matcha Cloud Line
    • 34:15 Do Yemeni-Drink Customers Cross Over to Matcha?
    • 36:03 Non-Coffee Drinks as a Growing Share of Sales
    • 37:23 How Haraz Approaches Food
    • 38:26 Hamzah's Advice: Compete With Yourself
    • 41:07 Where to Find Haraz Coffee House

    Coffee Think Tank is produced by Fresh Cup Magazine. For more industry news, insights, and resources for coffee professionals, visit freshcup.com.

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    40 mins
  • How To Roast Coffee Profitably in 2026 w/ Luke Waite [Pomelo Consulting]
    Mar 13 2026

    In this episode of Coffee Think Tank, Luke Waite—founder of Pomelo Coffee Consulting and former operations and sales leader at Metric Coffee and Passion House—talks about what it actually takes to run a profitable coffee roastery in 2026.

    Luke spent years on the inside of some of Chicago's most respected specialty roasters before launching Pomelo, where he helps roasters get a handle on their people, processes, and finances. He also just wrote The Owner's Manual, a practical guide to sustaining a coffee roaster.

    In this conversation, we get into...

    • Why roaster profitability is eroding and what the warning signs look like on your P&L
    • What Luke considers the financial danger zone for roasters—and what to do if you're in it
    • Why price increases are usually less painful than roasters expect, and how to communicate them well
    • What it means to "build the sales car before you hire the driver"—and why most roasters do it backwards
    • How coffee buyers have changed in the last few years, and what that means for your wholesale approach
    • Luke's "Core 7" framework for building a healthy, stable, and profitable roastery
    • A peek inside The Owner's Manual, Luke's new book on sustaining a coffee roaster

    Chapters

    • 00:00 Introduction & The State of Roaster Profitability
    • 02:05 The Goal of Becoming the First Michelin-Starred Cafe
    • 07:10 What a Michelin-Starred Cafe Would Look Like Today
    • 11:31 The State of Roaster Profitability Heading Into 2026
    • 13:19 How to Know If You're in Financial Trouble
    • 14:13 Luke's Consulting Framework: People, Process, and Profit
    • 18:37 Why Roasters Are Afraid to Raise Prices
    • 25:09 The Power of Relationships in Wholesale Sales
    • 27:31 Advice for Medium and Large Roasters
    • 29:27 Nurturing Wholesale Accounts Beyond the Transaction
    • 31:46 The Owner's Manual: Luke's New Book
    • 36:32 Why Roasters Sell Coffee at a Loss
    • 40:44 Building a Wholesale Sales Program
    • 45:58 How Coffee Buyers Have Changed
    • 46:56 Building the Sales Car Before You Hire the Driver
    • 53:54 Overcoming the Resistance to Sales and Marketing
    • 57:25 Recommended Resources and Inspirations
    • 1:03:55 What Luke Is Working On Next

    Where to Find Luke Waite

    • Pomelo Coffee Consulting website: pomelocoffeeconsulting.com
    • The Owner's Manual (book): pomelocoffeeconsulting.com/book

    Mentioned in the Episode

    • Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time by Jeff Sutherland
    • Lucia Solis (coffee fermentation and producer-side consultant)
    • Metric Coffee (Chicago roaster, former employer)
    • Passion House Coffee (Chicago roaster, former employer)
    • Fresh Cup Roaster Link (wholesale matchmaking program for roasters and buyers)
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    1 hr and 7 mins
  • How Verve Took Over Capital One Cafe w/ Harris Nash [Verve Coffee Roasters]
    Jul 15 2025
    When you think about where specialty coffee belongs, a bank probably isn't the first place that comes to mind. But what if the best coffee in your city happened to be served inside a Capital One branch?That's the audacious vision of Verve Coffee, the Santa Cruz-based coffee roaster that was started in 2007 and now has over a dozen cafe locations across California and Japan. Harris Nash, the company's Senior Wholesale Manager, has spent the last two years helping Verve Coffee take over the more than 50 Capital One Cafe locations across 18 states, converting customers from Peet's to specialty coffee in places like Herald Square in New York and shopping malls in Kansas.Harris brings a unique perspective to this challenge. He's worked nearly every role in the coffee industry—from barista to importer to getting stuck on a Chinese coffee farm during COVID lockdowns. But this Capital One project has pushed him out of his comfort zone even further with training 600 baristas to represent Verve's brand in locations they don't directly control, creating systems to maintain quality across a massive geographic footprint, and proving that specialty coffee can thrive in unexpected places.WHAT YOU'LL LEARNWhy Capital One switched to serve Verve Coffee from Peet's across 50+ locationsThe challenge of training 600 baristas to represent Verve's brand in locations they don't directly controlWhy customer redirects became crucial for converting Peet's customers to specialty coffee drinkersHow Verve developed granular training systems and learning management platforms to maintain quality at scaleWhy Verve partnered with local coffee trainers in each market to facilitate the transitionHow the partnership enabled Verve to support more coffee producers than ever beforeThe technology and operational systems needed to manage coffee quality across 18 statesWhy Harris believes specialty coffee's future lies in making high-quality coffee more approachableHow Verve created the exclusive Daybreaker Blend with a give-back component for Capital One CafesCHAPTERS00:00 Introduction to the Capital One Cafe Project03:11 Harris Nash's Journey in Specialty Coffee05:48 Transitioning from Peet's to Verve Coffee08:58 The Role of Training in Specialty Coffee12:09 Challenges of Brand Transition and Customer Experience15:10 Staff Training and Overcoming Resistance18:02 Infrastructure and Support for New Locations20:53 Maintaining Brand Standards and Quality Control24:03 Collaboration with Capital One and Operational Challenges27:06 Integrating Verve's Identity into Capital One Cafes34:12 Building a Brand Identity39:13 Collaborative Marketing Strategies46:06 Innovating Specialty Coffee51:50 Future of Partnerships and Products56:36 Experiences in China and Coffee OriginsWHERE TO FIND HARRIS NASHFollow Harris on Instagram: @harrisnashVerve Coffee website: vervecoffee.comVerve Coffee on Instagram: @vervecoffeeMENTIONED IN THE EPISODECapital One Cafe Dwell DripperPink House AlchemySwift CoffeeFarm Level FoundationREI FoundationTorch CoffeeBlack and White CoffeeThe Coffee Think Tank podcast is a show about trends, ideas, and innovations in coffee by Fresh Cup, hosted by Garrett Oden. Subscribe to Fresh Cup for more industry insights at .
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    1 hr and 5 mins
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