Same Team, Different Plans: A Father's Lesson on Individualized Leadership with Cleve Garvin
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Same Team, Different Plans: A Father's Lesson on Individualized Leadership with Cleve Garvin
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Cleveland Garvin — Dr. Kim's father. Retired after 36 years at IBM (retired 2004), 30 of those years in management, rising through four levels of leadership from first-line manager to fourth-level (“boss of the bosses”). Degree in math.
Episode Summary
In our first guest interview of the season, Dr. Kim sits down with her own father, Cleveland Garvin, for a conversation that's part leadership case study, part family story. Cleve spent 36 years at IBM — 30 of them in management — rising from first-line supervisor to fourth-level leadership. The thread running through all of it: there is no one-size-fits-all leadership style. Cleve breaks down why he doesn't believe in “born leaders,” how individualizing his approach — person by person — was what actually moved disengaged team members, and the leadership mistake that taught him to plan before he ever assigns a role. And yes — he tells the story of raising Dr. Kim, including the leadership lesson he wishes he'd taught her sooner about how she studied.