Jemima Hatherly is an online coach, a nurse and a former competitive dancer. After a knee injury at 15, doing her physio program with her dad at the gym turned into a love of training. Then she stopped dancing, lost her sense of purpose and developed anorexia, until the night her mum, a doctor, told her she didn't know how to help her anymore.

Lay sits down with Jemima, a friend from the gym, to talk about turning that time into purpose, why it's okay to ask for help, and why she's sick of seeing women try to shrink themselves. They cover her coaching style and the busy mums, uni students and shift workers she works with, why training shouldn't be punishment, and controlling the controllable by ticking the boxes. Jemima also talks about growing up in Mackay, a post that blew up by accident and the comments back home, why nobody at the gym is watching you, how doing what you say you'll do builds confidence, what to do on the days you don't feel like going, and her five-year plan: a community of women, a podcast and bodybuilding prep. Lay shares her own plan for a space people can call home.

Find Jemima on Instagram: @jemimahatherly.

Content note: this episode discusses eating disorders, including anorexia, and body image. If it brings anything up for you, the Butterfly Foundation National Helpline is on 1800 33 4673 (1800 ED HOPE), butterfly.org.au, and Lifeline is on 13 11 14. If you're outside Australia, contact your local eating-disorder or crisis service.

SHOW UP is hosted by Lay. Brought to you by Pump Academy.
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