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Maintenance Phase

Maintenance Phase

By: Aubrey Gordon & Michael Hobbes
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Debunking the junk science behind health fads, wellness scams and nonsensical nutrition advice.© 2026 Maintenance Phase Hygiene & Healthy Living Mental Health Awareness World
Episodes
  • The Diet Crimes of Metabolife
    Feb 12 2026

    The rags-to-riches tale of how an illegal methamphetamine manufacturer became a legal methamphetamine manufacturer.

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    • How the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 Weakened the FDA
    • Mad About Metabolife
    • Stimulant Propels Diet Empire
    • The dangers of the herb ephedra - Harvard Health
    • An Historical Review of Steps and Missteps in the Discovery of Anti-Obesity Drugs
    • Weight Loss the Herbal Way: No All-Natural Silver Bullet
    • Over-the-Counter-Strategy - The Washington Post
    • Anxious Pill-Maker Puts ABC Interview on the Web
    • A 'Neutral' Comment, a Company's Tough Reaction
    • Metabolife Intern., Inc. v. Wornick (S.D. Cal. 1999)
    • Ephedra hearings in the US House of Representatives
    • Expert Panel Finds Flaws In Diet Pill Safety Study
    • Letter Urging a Criminal Investigation of Metabolife - Public Citizen
    • Perspective; Regulation of Dietary Drugs Is Long Overdue
    • No Limit, for Now, on a Dieting Supplement
    • U.S. Bans Dietary Supplement Linked to Number of Deaths

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    57 mins
  • Raw Milk
    Nov 13 2025

    Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here?

    NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up!

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    • Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas
    • U.S. Consumer survey
    • The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins
    • Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk
    • How pasteurization improves safety
    • Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality
    • Alta Dena (Court case 1, Court case 2, Alta Dena's raw milk history)
    • A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies
    • Should This Milk Be Legal?
    • The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk
    • Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk?
    • The Quest for Raw Milk
    • Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk
    • Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation
    • How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA
    • Here's why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu
    • Influencers promote raw milk

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    1 hr and 6 mins
  • The Food Babe
    Sep 25 2025

    One blogger bravely pushes back against Starbucks, Subway and basic scientific facts.


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    • Taking On the Food Industry, One Blog Post at a Time
    • How the ‘Food Babe’ Went From Obama Ally to Trump Crusader
    • Activist or Capitalist? How the 'Food Babe' Makes Money
    • Latest Food Scare: What Is The 'Yoga Mat' Chemical - And Why Is It In Your Food?
    • Almost 500 Foods Contain The 'Yoga Mat' Compound. Should We Care?
    • Are You Eating This Ingredient Banned All Over the World?
    • The "Food Babe" Blogger is Full of Shit
    • Are Microwaves Safe?
    • Global Food Security Index 2022
    • Differences between EU and US nutrition labels go far beyond ounces and grams
    • Is Food Really Better in Europe?
    • Vani Hari: How She Grew Her Food Blog Into An Empire
    • Food blogger asks Kraft to stop using dye in mac and cheese
    • Meet the food blogger influencing RFK Jr.
    • Food Babe blogger Vani Hari taking heat over health science

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    53 mins
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All kinds of interesting things you never knew about the founder of Pilates. Nothing controversial about the exercise method itself, just the interesting, amusing and sometimes strange history surrounding it. A great commute listen. Thank you.

Very entertaining - lots of fun facts

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loved it. love every episode. presenters are wonderful and hilarious and you learn something new every time

my favourite podcast

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I've listened for year and honestly it always makes me laugh, informs and feeds my soul.

Always excellent. With no exceptions

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Funny, smart, and important, the duo addresses bad science and social attitudes based on bias rather than facts. A refreshing take that keeps growing on you.

Addictive, mind-blowing, intelligent: myth-busting at its best

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