Invisible cities podcast

Episode 5: Toni Brell

Invisible cities Podcast Episode 5:Toni Brell In this week's episode we welcome Toni Bell an artist working at the intersection of installation, performance, and sound during their recent AIR at platform.

During our discussion, we are guided through a thoughtful and meandering conversation where we touch on everything from, fake tastes, blue horses, nostalgia, the rise of fascism and the importance holding space for complexity. Reflecting on their theater background, Toni describes how it has effected their methods for creating participatory spaces. Like a set-builder, Toni creates complex landscapes that are meant to be approached from different angles.

Drawing inspiration from ASMR and Foley practices, many of the sculptures they create emit sounds through touch and are often linked to gestures, rhythms, and shared rituals. Inviting activation, the audience may become active participants – characters in a narrative that unfolds.

Toni Brell lives and works in Amsterdam.

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In this week's episode, we welcome multi media artist Johan Sandås following his solo exhibition at White Box in Jakobstad.

In keeping with the broad artistic references informing his work, we discuss everything from, brain scanning devices, wooden spoons - to this year's vegetable of the year. Through these diverse topics, Johan shares his perspectives on art and usefulness, beautiful data and his playful faith in following the wildest imaginative tangents.

For the last five years, Johan has been investigating the border between the real and digital to explore the world of the imagination. Using a combination of sculpture, hand tool woodworking and digital technologies, he explores the scale of real to unreal - where the 'world of ideas' offers him the creative space to follow connections in an intuitive and free-flowing way.

Johan Sandås (b 1981) lives and works in Jakobstad, Finland.

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In this week's episode, we welcome Göran to discuss the dialogical nature of art as an encounter a co-creative method of understanding and personal commitment.

In Görans words... ''The obstacles and difficulties we encounter in our interaction with works of art are very much like the obstacles in our everyday interactions with each other, obstacles that have different natures depending on the person and the context. And just as we cannot determine in advance the conditions for a successful human relationship, this cannot be done with regard to the relationship to a work of art. There is no method whatsoever that would guarantee a successful relationship, either when it comes to our relationships with each other or with different works. The fact that the meaning of a work of art first emerges in and through the encounter between the work and the recipient presupposes a co-creative personal commitment on the part of the recipient in order not to run amok. If a response were always absent, the works of art would remain mute. In the encounter with individual works of art, we are therefore faced with the task of finding our own personal relationship – something that makes it both easy and difficult. Easy because we can start digging where we stand. Difficult because it is ourselves we have to dig into.''

Göran Torrkulla (b 1949 in Kokkola) lives and works in Turku, Finland.

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