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Out of Line with Tiff Scott

Out of Line with Tiff Scott

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Too many companies spend more time managing feelings, power dynamics, and internal BS than fixing what’s broken. Decisions get delayed or avoided to keep people comfortable, and accountability disappears. Out of Line is a podcast for leaders who are over that. Each episode features founders and executives who actually run businesses and are willing to talk transparently about leadership, responsibility, and the experiences that shaped how they lead.

2026 Tiffany Scott
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  • Out of Line Ep. 17 | Why 98% of Companies Get Veteran Hiring Wrong | Chip Mardis

    Out of Line Ep. 17 | Why 98% of Companies Get Veteran Hiring Wrong | Chip Mardis
    13 Oct 2026
    Your company is probably getting veteran hiring wrong, and your HR team has no idea. 🎖️ Less than 2% of Americans have any connection to the military, so most HR leaders and staffing partners walk right past what veterans and military spouses actually bring to the table. Chip Mardis knows both sides of that desk. Army veteran, former captain called up for Desert Storm, and a career HR leader who climbed to chief human resources officer. Now he runs Blue United Sourcing, placing veterans and military spouses into leadership, management, skilled trades, and IT roles. He and Tiffany Scott get into the mentor who told him he was not an entrepreneur, why 98% of corporate America is clueless about military talent, what it feels like to take the uniform off for the last time, the Civilian Ready transition program, running a company with his daughter from 4,000 miles away, and why he had to stop selling before anybody would buy. 👀 ⏱️ CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open 0:44 Intro 1:26 "You're really not an entrepreneur": a mentor's gut check 3:28 Running a company with his daughter 4,000 miles away 7:54 Army captain, Desert Storm, and getting out 9:27 From Army captain to his hands and knees 11:34 Becoming a first time CHRO 12:09 The 95% retention culture 12:24 Bringing military talent into corporate HR 14:41 The 40% military spouse unemployment problem 15:19 Launching Blue United Sourcing 17:08 Partnering with his daughter 19:13 Let the market tell you what it wants 20:53 Sell, sell, sell and selling nothing 26:42 Why 98% of companies get veteran hiring wrong 27:30 Losing the camaraderie when the uniform comes off 29:39 When the executive team asked for more JMOs 33:44 Where the clients come from: IT, MSPs, referrals 36:44 Why won't HR just look at a resume? 42:20 Turning around a business nobody wanted 47:10 Moneyball, and why HR should be the umpire 51:52 Build the church for the confessional 53:43 Your title is not who you are 55:34 Civilian Ready and life after the uniform 59:27 Where to find Chip and join the talent network 🎖️ EVERYTHING CHIP MENTIONED Join the talent network: https://apply.workable.com/blue-united-sourcing/j/457FAE9D89/ Blue United Sourcing: https://www.blueunitedsourcing.com Contact Chip: https://www.blueunitedsourcing.com/contact-8 Chip on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chipmardis Civilian Ready: https://civilianready.org 🎧 LISTEN EVERYWHERE Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod 💙 If you or a veteran you know is struggling, the Veterans Crisis Line is available 24/7: dial 988 and press 1.
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  • Out of Line Ep. 18 | Why This HR Leader Walked Away From Her VP Title | Jamee Niles

    Out of Line Ep. 18 | Why This HR Leader Walked Away From Her VP Title | Jamee Niles
    27 Oct 2026
    She did everything right. Twenty five years in HR, eleven of them at one company, where she helped it grow from 170 people to almost 4,000 and worked her way up to VP of HR. Then private equity walked in, the leaders who built the culture started disappearing, and Jamee Niles decided the title wasn't worth who she'd have to become to keep it. 👀 Four years later she runs JLN HR Consulting on her own terms. She and Tiffany Scott get into what private equity really changes after the deal closes, why she was never a political person and paid for it, the John Wooden quote that made the decision for her, why companies keep losing good candidates to slow hiring and lowball offers, telling clients their baby's ugly, walking away from a client instead of sacrificing her integrity, and why success for her isn't scale. It's enjoying the work and getting her nights back. 💼 If you lead HR, run a small business, or you're sitting in a corporate seat wondering if the title is worth it, this one is for you. ⏱️ CHAPTERS 0:00 Show open 0:36 Meet Jamee Niles 1:49 How one vulnerable launch post connected us 5:37 Four years in: the feast and famine of solo consulting 10:34 From phys ed teacher to HR 14:29 11 years, 170 to 4,000, and a VP title 18:09 What private equity really changes 21:50 Choosing to walk away 24:04 Character over reputation 25:48 "I was not a political person" 27:06 What success means now 30:00 Recruiting by request, and hiring herself out of a job 31:45 Why companies keep losing good candidates 35:17 Telling clients their baby's ugly 39:08 When it's time to walk away from a client 39:56 Out of line: the rules she never broke 45:19 Confident outside, churning inside 47:01 How running a business changed her 51:13 Her best advice: patience, and say no 53:17 Struggling isn't failing 54:05 Expect the unexpected 56:26 Phone off at night 57:06 Not looking to grow 59:29 Why we accept being at somebody's beck and call 1:00:45 Success isn't always scale 🎤 GUEST Jamee Niles, founder, JLN HR Consulting Website: https://www.jlnhrconsulting.com Work with Jamee: https://www.jlnhrconsulting.com/contact-7 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamee-niles-05338b6 JLN HR Consulting on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jlnhr-consulting 🎧 LISTEN EVERYWHERE Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/out-of-line-with-tiffany-scott/id1882144516 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2LnreneFTLjy1vFXVLnv9N YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@OutOfLinePod 🔗 FOLLOW OUT OF LINE LinkedIn (Tiffany): https://www.linkedin.com/in/tiffanyscott421 LinkedIn (show page): https://www.linkedin.com/company/111447145/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tiffisoutofline TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@unbalanced.af
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