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From What If to What Next

From What If to What Next

By: Rob Hopkins
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If there was ever a time for fresh thinking, for being bold, for being visionary and imaginative – for reimagining everything – this is it. Each episode, writer and Transition Movement founder, Rob Hopkins, invites cutting edge thinkers to visualise a new future. Join us as we ask What If...© 2020 Rob Hopkins All Rights Reserved Social Sciences
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  • 104 - Jordan Flaherty
    Jul 1 2026

    This month's episode is a conversation with producer Jordan Flaherty about the incredible new Afrofuturist film 'Space to Breathe', of which the promotional material states "Space to Breathe is an Afrofuturist science fiction hybrid documentary, framed with a future where there are no prisons or police.

    The year is 2070 and Sojourner is a young genderqueer filmmaker who sets out to understand how abolition came to be, through history's archives on the movements of the early 21st Century". See more here. It was a joy to meet him and discuss the film in depth, and in this episode, our Producer Bee Addicott has cut our conversation together with short passages from the film. I'd love to know what you think. It's a film that moved me deeply. Why not organise a screening in your neighbourhood? The film was written by Walidah Imarisha, who appeared in Episode 100 of this podcast.

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    26 mins
  • 103 - Kate Pickett
    May 1 2026

    Kate Pickett was co-author of the seminal 'The Spirit Level', and she just published her new book 'The Good Society: and how we make it'.

    'The Good Society' is an utterly brilliant and compelling vision of what a more equal future fundamentally rooted in care would look like. I can't recommend it highly enough. It draws on a wide array of empirical evidence to bring alive what such a future would be like. It was a huge honour to sit down with Kate to explore some of the themes in the book and where they overlap with the need to boost and build our radical imagination(s).

    I hope you love this conversation, do let me know what you think.

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    43 mins
  • 102 - Solitaire Townsend
    Apr 1 2026

    The second (Episode 102) of my rejuvenated and back-in-your-life podcast, 'From What If to What Next' features my conversation with the fabulous Solitaire Townsend.

    Following 2025's New York Climate Week online, the key thing that caught my attention was Solitaire standing up and boldly stating 'Fuck Doom'. She told Climate Week "Fuck the sad little "last generation" memes. Fuck climate being served up as clickbait. Fuck the guilt and grief shoved down our throats. Fuck waiting for the end of the world like it's a season finale". In my chair many miles away, I whooped in support. I wanted to find out more.

    Why does it matter so much that we come out fighting for a liveable future rather than resigning to collapse and disaster? It's a wonderful conversation that goes off in so many directions. In it we discuss her 'F*ck Doom' campaign, William Shakespeare, why she's just written a novel, and why climate activism needs to move beyond, in theatrical terms, 'Act One'. It's brilliant and rich.

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    49 mins
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I love the way Rob inspires people to think positively, despite all the fear that's cultivated in the mainstream media, there is power in imaging a better world, a better future. We need more reminders like this!

What a way to unleash your imagination!

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