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EPISODE: End of season episode where curator Joana P. R. Neves uncovers the richness of new perspectives on contemporary art through the ethos found in podcasting. Joana also shares insights from her attendance at the International Women Podcast Awards, highlighting the non-hierarchical nature of the podcasting community. Looking ahead, she teases new formats and changes for the upcoming season, while opening up about the need for engagement.

Exhibitionistas Podcast • June 27, 2025 • Episode 2x21 • 44:25

What You'll Learn from This Episode

Key Questions Explored:

- The podcast celebrates its two-season journey with 33 episodes.

- Joana reflects on the two origins and evolution of the podcast.

- Podcasting is transitioning into new formats and technologies–Joana reveals how this instills a new energy into art reviewing.

- Inclusivity and non-hierarchical structures as essential feminist values intersecting with podcasting.

- The role of the art critic is re-assessed and redefined.

- Biographical data should be used against the elitism plaguing art in a non-deterministic way.

- Museums contribue to elitism with the tools that should counter it.

- Engagement and feedback from listeners are learned but necessary behaviours.

- Joana sees podcasting as potentially extending the job market for art, provided there is financial sustainability.

Key Themes Explored in This EpisodeThe unexpected relation between art, podcasting and feminism. The importance of inclusivity within feminism for the host. How critical thinking can be accessible through artist biographies and avoiding myth-making through superlatives. Audience engagement is crucial for podcasting; there is a relation between the podcaster and their audience. Podcasting fosters connections and breaks the unilateral aspect of contemporary art experiences and discourse. The reasons why there is a difficulty in turning a podcast sustainable are varied: audience habits are analysed as well as the audience awareness of podcast work.

Major Themes: The Digital Format of Art Content, Ethics of Feminism in Podcasting, Museum Communication Strategies and Failures, Potential of Connectivity through the Accessibility of Podcasting, The Love and Respect for Art and Artist's time Dedication to Art, The State of Art Criticism Today, Contemporary Critical Thinking, Audience Engagement, How to Engage with a Podcast, The Importance of Paid Work in Podcasting. The importance of Understanding Podcasting with Critical Thinking and Writing, Art & Elitism, alienating audiences.

Measure Pleasure examines the love and dedication to contemporary art, by spectators, curators, critics and, conversely, its reputation of elitism.

Perfect for: Art students, gallery visitors, anyone curious about art discourse and critique, and fans of philosophy of art, contemporary art audience engagement strategies, podcasters and more specifically art podcasters.

Intro: 00:00:00

The feminism of podcasting: 00:03:24

Is the art critic obsolete?: 00:07:46

The value of biases: 00:08:48

Audience engagement: show your bias!: 00:12:24

Biography: 00:14:38

Do museums alienate audiences with declarations of greatness?: 00:20:06

Insights into art podcasting: 00:29:54

EXPECT SUMMER EPISODES!

NEXT SEASON: SEPTEMBER 2025 - JUNE 2026

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We have an interview episode! Gallerist Sarah Le Quang Sang showcases and promotes female and queer artists, fighting, one step at a time, to reduce the price gap between genders, the lack of LGBTQIA+ representation in archives, collections, art fairs and private collections, but also the linear conception of artistic careers.

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How empowering can the #artmarket be? How can a commercial gallery push boundaries? Be more inclusive? And what are the intersections between collections, trans rights, motherhood, family and queer communities? Sarah Le Quang Sang may not have all the answers, but she has all the good questions. She asks: why are birthdates important? Why is there an artistic career template? Who has access to museum collections? Art fairs?

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A new star in the constellation of London galleries, Sarah Le Quang Sang, established a commercial gallery in Shoreditch in 2024–SLQS–to champion female and queer artists. We mention her current exhibition of three Vietnamese artists, Vicky Do, Hua Dung-Clerget and Duong Thuy Nguyen, as well as the previous exhibition by trans non-binary artist Bex Wade which prompted an acquisition of their work by the V&A, now shown at Young V&A Bethnal Green.

We had to mention the Supreme Court Ruling in past April reducing gender to biological sex, and thus legally erasing trans women particularly, and the trans community in general. Bex Wade was invited to write about the photos of the exhibition (Queer nightlife in the US in 2010s, a time of lightness and joy) in the context of anti-trans movements rising and becoming more vocal. I read an excerpt of the text at the end of the episode.

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About us: If you enjoy the podcast A Brush With and You Are Good, you will enjoy Exhibitionistas, where artists are unveiled through current and pertinent angles, and through thoughts and feelings. These podcasts were a great inspiration for our format because they're nerdy and engaging, researched and approachable. The co-host and the guest co-host or interviewed guest engage in a conversation informed by an accessible and lively presentation of the subject, through which you can reflect on a show or a topic or discover it, learn or re-evaluate artistic topics crossing over into our everyday lives.

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Contemporary art is a feast for the senses. But have we reduced art to vision? And what does the hand do, now that we have machines and automated ways of making, editing and showing images? And what are images?

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This episode is the second audio/video essay of the season. It will take you on a trip to a sensory shift across times, blurring the boundaries between line, image, wall, surface, paper, and machines. Where the hand is, what it does and how it is re-articulated by automation is promising and exciting if we let it.

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I was invited to participate in a conversation on the occasion of the launch of Trajectories, Variations on a Gesture a book which is almost a sculpture or an exhibition in itself, containing 10 drawings made at Massana school of crafts (Barcelona) by Edouard Cabay. The director of the school, Xavi Capmany invited Cabay, an experimental architect and artist to bring his algorithmic practice at the heart of a school teaching manual crafts in order to create a dialogue between the different uses of the hand, of patterns, of the eye, the brain, muscle and memory. I dediced to start by reading a short text, which you can enjoy, in a longuer version, here.

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About us: If you enjoy the podcast If Books Could Kill and You Are Good, you will enjoy Exhibitionistas, where artists are unveiled through current and pertinent angles, and through thoughts and feelings. These podcasts were a great inspiration for our format because they're nerdy and engaging, researched and approachable. The co-host and the guest co-host engage in a conversation informed by an accessible and lively presentation of the subject, through which you can reflect on a show you've seen or discover it if you can't go, learn or re-evaluate artistic topics crossing over into our everyday lives.