HR may have moved beyond its traditional role, is it really ready to become something bigger?

For organisations to succeed, they need engaged people working in high-performing teams. But creating that kind of workplace requires HR to think differently about how we align purpose, values, strategy, processes and behaviour, and how we create cultures that are not only high-performing, but fair, kind, inclusive and sustainable.

Join Lucy and David Liddle as they discuss replacing adversarial grievance and disciplinary procedures with a resolution-first approach, why compliance and compassion aren’t opposites, how traditional processes can destroy trust and relationships, and what becomes possible when we assume that adults are capable of resolving many workplace issues themselves.

They also look at the future role of HR: spending less time managing bureaucracy and more time listening, interpreting people data and helping leaders anticipate what may happen next. Finally, they explore why AI is fundamentally a people and culture issue and the opportunity for HR to shape its adoption so that it augments human capability without diminishing judgement or connection.

David is CEO of the TCM Group and President of the People and Culture Institute. For more than 25 years, he and his team have worked with organisations around the world on conflict resolution, leadership development and cultural change.

Chapters

• 00:03 Why HR is standing at a precipice
• 09:31 The thinking behind People and Culture
• 22:09 Transformative justice: moving beyond blame and punishment
• 31:43 HR’s future role: culture, listening and predictive insight
• 41:46 Why HR must take the lead on AI

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In this episode of HR Disrupted, Lucy Adams is joined by Andy Doyle, Chief People and Agent Officer at Kantar. While much of the conversation around AI focuses on hype or fear, Andy shares a grounded, practical perspective on how Kantar has embedded AI agents into the heart of its HR operations.

Lucy and Andy dig into why Kantar chose to take this path and how their ambitions evolved along the way. What started as a cost and efficiency conversation quickly expanded into something far more strategic – rethinking how work gets done and what HR’s role should be in that shift. Andy shares the realities behind building AI capability in-house, the importance of leadership courage, and why HR professionals need to get comfortable owning technology, not just responding to it.

The discussion also tackles the implications for the HR function itself. As AI agents take on more transactional work, what’s left for HR? Andy offers a clear view: this is an opportunity for HR to become more impactful, not less – but only if it’s willing to step up, experiment, and lead from the front. This episode is a practical look at what it really takes to move from AI curiosity to meaningful transformation.

Chapters 00:00 Introduction and why AI is dominating the agenda 07:30 Why Kantar decided to invest in AI agents 18:45 What they actually built – from payroll to employee support 30:10 Lessons learned and challenges along the way 41:20 The future role of HR in an AI-enabled organisation

About Andy Doyle Andy Doyle is Chief People and Agent Officer at Kantar. Connect with Andy on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajdoyle/

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n this episode, Lucy Adams is joined by Eva Murciano to explore one of the biggest challenges facing organisations today: how to keep careers moving in environments where people stay for a long time. Drawing on Eva’s experience at the European Central Bank, they unpack the tension between having a highly committed, purpose-driven workforce and the unintended consequences of low turnover; stagnation, limited progression, and skills that risk becoming outdated.

Their conversation challenges the traditional idea of career progression as a ladder to climb. Instead, Lucy and Eva discuss the need to reframe careers around growth, skills, and experiences. They explore why both employees and managers often resist internal mobility, and what organisations can do to shift mindsets. From redefining success to making movement the norm rather than the exception, this episode offers practical insight into what it really takes to future-proof careers.

Eva also shares how the ECB is experimenting with a structured approach to mobility through its “3–5–8 model,” encouraging employees to think proactively about their next move. It’s an honest discussion about what works, what’s still evolving, and why HR has a critical role to play in nudging both individuals and leaders towards more dynamic, flexible career paths.

Chapters 00:00 – Rethinking careers in a fast-changing world 08:12 – The hidden challenge of long-tenured workforces 16:45 – Why internal mobility is so hard to make happen 25:30 – The 3–5–8 model: encouraging movement and growth 33:10 – What HR can do to shift mindsets and behaviours

About Eva Murciano Eva Murciano is an HR leader at the European Central Bank, with a focus on talent, development, and organisational effectiveness. She is passionate about enabling people to grow through diverse experiences and helping organisations build more agile, future-ready workforces.

Contact Eva https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-murciano-831a5a13/

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In this episode, Lucy Adams and Karen Moran take stock of the people and work trends that are likely to shape 2026. Drawing on what they’re seeing across organisations right now, they focus on the changes that genuinely matter for HR and leaders, from shifting employee expectations to the growing pressure on organisations to operate with greater trust and transparency.

They explore how ideas about leadership, performance and culture are continuing to evolve, why traditional HR models are being stretched, and what this means for areas such as hybrid working, capability building and organisational design. The discussion highlights where HR can add the most value over the next few years, and where it may need to step back from long-established but increasingly unhelpful practices.

Lucy and Karen also reflect on what this moment means for HR more broadly, and how teams can prepare for 2026 in a way that is pragmatic, human and grounded in reality.

The HR Disrupted podcast will be taking a break due to other commitments but the conversation very much continues! For more insights from Lucy and the team at Disruptive HR, check out the website at www.disruptivehr.com.

Chapters

00:00 – Looking ahead: Why 2026 is a turning point for work 09:10 – Shifting expectations: What employees and leaders want next 21:05 – Rethinking HR models: What may need to change or disappear 34:00 – What’s next: Preparing for 2026

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HR doesn’t struggle with not having enough data - we’ve got tons of it. Engagement scores, churn and absenteeism rates, performance ratings, DEI metrics - the works. But can we honestly say we’re brilliant at using that data to drive our people strategies? The answer is probably, “not yet.” So, this episode explores how we can get better at turning data into real insight and how that insight can help us build more trust, better performance, and stronger cultures. Lucy is joined by Jenny Deaborn who’s spent her career helping organisations do exactly that. Her new book, The Insight-Driven Leader, is a practical roadmap for HR teams and leaders who want to make analytics genuinely useful and human.

Drawing on over 100 one-to-one interviews with CEOs, CHROs and board members, Jenny explains why the best organisations aren’t using “magic” HR metrics – they’re just using familiar ones with far more rigour. She unpacks why “regrettable attrition of top performers in critical roles” beats a single company-wide turnover number every time, how to define “top performer” and “critical role” with real fidelity, and why every good HR metric should be in service of a small handful of measures the board genuinely cares about.

They then dig into what it really means to be an insight-driven leader rather than just “data-informed”: connecting people data with customer metrics to show where revenue, risk and growth are truly sitting in your workforce. Jenny shares practical examples of using AI to join up disparate data sources, warning that technology is no longer the barrier – mindset and culture are.

Chapters

02:15 – Jenny’s story: neurodiversity, quotas and the credibility that comes with numbers

08:35 – Business-first HR: the tiny set of people metrics CEOs and boards really care about

16:50 – From data-informed to insight-driven: joining HR, CRM and ERP data (and where AI helps)

25:20 – Is your culture ready for analytics? Plus practical first steps for aspiring insight-driven CHROs

Disruptive HR

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Contact Jenny https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennydearborn/

Lucy and Karen get honest about one of HR’s toughest challenges: helping leaders and managers actually change how they behave. Drawing on their own “humiliations” as former HR Directors, they unpack why influencing senior leaders can feel so hard – from fear of getting it wrong, to loss of status, to simple overload – and introduce four familiar resistance types: the Defiant, the Intellectual, the Busy Operator and the Reluctant.

They share ten practical ways to shift behaviour without a 50-slide deck. You’ll hear how to start with sharp, leader-focused questions instead of programmes, use commercial numbers to earn attention, set clear people outcomes rather than more process, offer genuine choice, and make change feel tiny and doable through simple nudges. They also explore how to swap “HR as trainer” for peer-to-peer learning, use more human language, and tailor your message to different decision-making styles – from fast-moving Drivers to cautious “steady hands”.

Finally, Lucy and Karen show how to stop pouring energy into the hardest resistors and instead “go with the energy” – working first with early adopters, then using their success to win over results-focused pragmatists.

• 00:03 – Setting the scene: Why influencing leaders feels so hard for HR
• 03:31 – Four types of resistance: Defiant, Intellectual, Busy and Reluctant
• 08:48 – Ten practical tips: Questions, data and focusing on outcomes
• 16:35 – Making it easy: Choice, tiny nudges and peer-to-peer learning
• 28:23 – Personas, packaging and next steps: Olivia, Jessica, Michael and a simple plan for your next leader conversation

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One of the biggest challenges facing HR is the perennial challenge of leadership capability. Despite years of investment in programmes, frameworks, and workshops, many organisations still struggle to see real behavioural change. The world around us is moving faster, the expectations on leaders are higher, and yet our development approaches can still feel generic, theoretical, and removed from the realities of day-to-day work.

But what if technology - and specifically, AI - could help us do it differently? Instead of a one-size-fits-all course, what if every manager could have a personalised coach in their pocket that gives them real-time, practical guidance in the moment they need it most? To explore the benefits and risks of AI coaching, Lucy is joined by Anand Chopra-McGowan, Managing Director, Europe at Valence.

Anand explains how Nadia, Valence’s AI coach, learns your context (company principles, programmes, your team) and supports both the “small moments” such as a tricky feedback chat, and the “big moments” like onboarding and performance reviews. He shares a live example of using Nadia minutes before a meeting, why perfect memory beats good intentions, and how the tool integrates where managers already are .

We dig into trust and ethics, what data Nadia uses, and how clients are measuring value - from time saved on reviews to uplift in leadership effectiveness scores and store-level customer outcomes. Anand’s deployment advice is refreshingly practical: point the coach at high-friction moments in your HR calendar, customise to your ways of working, and use early wins to convert sceptics.

00:29 — Why traditional leadership development stalls 10:22 — What Nadia is and how it works (with an in-the-moment example at 12:12) 14:47 — Ethics, data, and measuring impact (ROI examples from 19:23) 23:01 — How to deploy AI coaching and bring sceptical managers with you

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Contact Anand: https://www.linkedin.com/in/achopramcgowan/

As we know - AI isn’t something that’s coming in the future — it’s already here, and it’s already reshaping how we hire, develop and engage our people. The pace of change can feel daunting at times, but the big challenge for us in HR is how we shift from dabbling with new tools to really using AI as a strategic enabler. In this episode, Lucy explores the key opportunities and risks — from ethics and trust, through to leadership development, talent management and employee engagement with the help of one of the leading voices in people analytics and digital HR David Green.

David shares research showing more companies now have dedicated AI governance for HR, and why moving from “jobs” to “tasks and skills” matters if we want technology to augment work rather than trigger blunt headcount cuts. The conversation explores what great employee listening looks like when you blend surveys with collaboration and behavioral signals (at aggregate level), plus the implications for hybrid work, org design, and keeping the human experience at the centre.

For HR professionals wondering where to start, David’s advice is simple: build AI literacy, experiment hands-on, identify a few high-value use cases tied to business priorities, and iterate with a sponsor. The capability stack HR needs now ranges from data/AI literacy and stakeholder influence to human-centred design, storytelling, and emotional intelligence—so we can automate the repetitive, personalise the meaningful, and lead the transformation with credibility.

Chapters

00:03 — Meet David Green David’s journey from recruitment to people analytics; Insight222 and the Digital HR Leaders podcast.

07:04 — What’s actually being used Adoption snapshot; chatbots, sentiment analysis of feedback, and augmented JD writing. 12:40 — Trust, ethics & redesigning work Governance and transparency; shifting from jobs to tasks/skills; keeping the human experience central. 20:50 — Strategy to practice AI as a strategic enabler; leadership development, employee listening/hybrid insights, the HR skillset, and where to start.

Contact David: www.insight222.com

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