An Imaginative Novel of Robots, Control & Chaos

A few things to know about Ms. Ashby - she's a flippin' genius, a marvelous storyteller and she's willing to pursue her ideas and stories without reference to niceties. While I think it would be fair to say she's a liberal feminist, she's way not PC. She takes it all head-on, sensibilities be hanged. She reminds me of a liberal Ayn Rand with a few important differences besides ideology - she knows how to edit, if she explores the same or similar themes, she does so in interesting and new ways; Ms. Rand tended to rehash with slight variations. Also, her are subservient to the story, not the other way around. vN explores themes tied to sentient androids and their relations to humans other vN (she invokes something similar to Asimov's 3 laws of robotics), unique issues tied to self-replicating androids (hence the Von Neumann machine reference) and a world in which cataclysmic events have destabilized our world (does she have a thing against Seattle?). "An iteration is not a copy, it is simply the next version." Ashby, Madeline (2012-07-31). vN (First Machine Dynasty) (Kindle Location 3651). Osprey Publishing. Kindle Edition.

Prior to dipping my toes below the spoiler line, however, I also want to commend Christina Traister's narration. As I typically do, I went between the Kindle and Audible versions relying on Whispersync for Voice to keep me on track. I would think this book would be a bit of a challenge to narrate. Amy needs to be young whilst quickly becoming a full, somewhat jaded woman. Javier is a Hispanic-based model. Portia is wacked. The terminology is a bit eclectic, to wit "...but her spirit was as strong as the titanium sheathing her graphene coral bones, her personal integrity as impermeable as the silicone skin overlaying the polymerdoped memristors embedded there, her wit as quick as the carbon aerogel currents wafting through and shaping the musculature of her body." Say that fives times fast. Ms. Traister handles it all with aplomb. Her phrasing and pacing are spot on. Her characters are believable and the tone of her voice matches them and their context. She is easy to understand. Lovely work. Seriously good reads; I highly recommend both books (but start with vN).

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THIS IS IT.

Would you listen to vN again? Why?

no because i rember it. but maybe years after now

Who was your favorite character and why?

they all are good. amy is the main. good and crazy AI

Which scene was your favorite?

humm idk alot of them

Was this a book you wanted to listen to all in one sitting?

yea but i had to sleeep eat and work and drive.

Any additional comments?

you will like this book. if you like sifi and ai stuff

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Not your average 'Pinocchio' AI Sci-Fi

Sci-Fi genre is full of stories about self-aware artificial intelligence and their place in the human world. This book is off the beaten 'But I'm a real boy (girl)' path. Don't expect dwelling on AI vs Humans ethical questions, they are there but not as a centerpiece of the story, it never moralizes and makes you feel like you just sat through a Sunday school lesson about humanity.

vN is about evolution of artificial 'life', designed as help and entertainment, constrained by Asimov's Laws of Robotics and programmed limits to morality. They reproduce by iteration, which is as much of self-replicating as human children are replicas of their parents. Ultimately, that’s the moral of the story – we are more than we’re made to be and that restrictions, limitations and expectations will not in the end hold us back. The same goes for robots.

The writing is tight, the characters likable, and the story is compelling. The book is is fairly low on technobabble, and it’s character-driven as well as idea-driven.

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Sloppy fruit salad of ideas.

the story needs structure and reason. it wasn't horrible. just needlessly confusing.
the cool parts lack inspiration.

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So much potential

Really awesome premise and universe... and it's almost completely wasted. I'd hope this series would get better, but I'll never find out. Forcing myself to finish this one.

Love story, family issues, pedophialia, sexual objectifictation... and so many more issues... all touched on and then just sort of left flailing. I'm an hour and half away from completion, but the "machine dynasty" seems vastly more human than machine.

Subject matter isn't quite YA, but the story really is.

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Pinocchio on the run

This debut novel by Madeline Ashby asks some interesting questions about what the motivations and desires of humanoid AIs would be, and the surprising answer is remarkably similar to what their human creators seek. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of robo-happiness looks much the same as the familiar goals, with some cosmetic differences in the health & diet departments. Ashby’s von Neumann robots are lot like the vampires making the rounds in a lot of YA fiction these days: Super-powered, beautiful versions of people who happen to eat something unusual, but share all our emotions and dramas. Here, I was a bit disappointed, and saw potential for some wildly interesting outlook that superimposes inarguable machine logic on top of everyday life. The closest thing here was the universally in-built “failsafe” directive that the vN possess which compels them to obey and cherish humans, (their garlic/sunlight/stake/holy water Achilles’ heel). The central conflict of the story arrises from, naturally, the appearance of a vN who can willfully ignore her failsafe. Like many of those YA ‘paranormal romance’ stories, there is a blossoming romance in the works, and an authoritarian regime eager to snuff it all out. The first person perspective brought to mind Charles Stross’ “Saturn’s Children”, which also featured a female humanoid robot protagonist, and a parallel mechanism to the failsafe whereby robots are compelled to obey all humans completely and lovingly.

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A strange book

Would you try another book from Madeline Ashby and/or Christina Traister?

Maybe

Would you ever listen to anything by Madeline Ashby again?

Maybe

Which character – as performed by Christina Traister – was your favorite?

Didn't have one

You didn’t love this book... but did it have any redeeming qualities?

I was initially intrigued by the uniqueness, strangeness, quirkyness of this book. Because of this, I stuck with it to the end. But I am a bit of a sci-fi/fantasy geek, so I am sure that most people would bail before the end.

Any additional comments?

The weirdness was just ok. But the ending, the last 2 chapters, was just tooo strange and annoyed me - I felt that I had wasted my time.

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Not as good as I thought it could be

Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?

Not really - it was frustrating experience.

Would you be willing to try another book from Madeline Ashby? Why or why not?

Probably not. There were compelling ethical questions but no answers or hints that the author even knew what questions the book raised.

How could the performance have been better?

For some reason, the speaker pronounced Javier with a 'D'. Very odd and took you out of the narrative spell repeatedly.

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

Sure - Hollywood would turn it into a sci-fi action flick much like 'I, Robot'. It would be a fun way to pass the time with some popcorn.

Any additional comments?

I really wanted to like it - the description sounded right up my alley.

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Meh… Vore isn’t my thing.

I read lots of sci-fi, but this seems more like lots of interpersonal stuff, vore, and zombie-esk overtones. The main plot driver is a bunch of interpersonal stuff, but it all seems to be pushing a social agenda and just thinly veiled with very few “sci-fi” ideas.

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Interesting Concepts

I was not turned off by the bizarre nature and behavior of the artificial people in this book. Some of those where fresh and original--even the primary event of the story that happens to the main character.

The characters are well written and loved the exploration of humanity between human characters and the artificial ones. I loved the artificial person's struggle with what is real feelings, emotions, and love and what is just part of the program.

But I didn't love the story. There where parts where I wondered if I was reading a dream sequence rather that was going to revert back to earlier parts of the story because of some things that transpired were frankly not very plausible. You know those parts in Blade Runner were you are confused if it is a dream or reality? Like that.

The ending was quite a surprise. That can be good and bad in that it presenting some interesting and original ideas, that reminded my of the original Ghost in the Shell work, but was so poorly stitched into the rest of the novel the conclusion could have been a short story on its own.

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