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Ep. 10: No Way Out (Body of Proof)

Length: 30 mins
Categories: Non-fiction, True Crime
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Summary

Is David Gilroy innocent? Darrell and Sophie explore the ripple effect of his case, look for alternative burial sites, and learn about a proposed law which could mean David’s sentence will never end. We also realise there is more than one victim in this story....

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Intriguing

I had watched a doc on this case and was quite satisfied that they had the right guy .. BUT after listening to so much more detail and evidence I have to say I now have some doubt.
But if not him who?
What did he really do with all that time?
Why wasn't the shopping mall sighting investigated?
Who was in the blue car?
I hope for the family's sake she is found soon but if they are only looking in the vicinity of his journey, she may never be found.

This was excellently put together, would love to listen to these podcasters investigating another case

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Ok for a free download

This wasn’t as good as a lot of the other true crime podcasts on Audible, but as someone who wasn’t aware of the case I still found it interesting.

It works better as a review of the Scottish legal system than as a true crime thriller that it seems to want to be.

Still, it’s free so can’t complain

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Uncomfortable listening and quite disrespectful

This was an interesting podcast. However I think unless you have new evidence or an alternative narrative it is a bit disrespectful to the victim and the family of the victim. I especially question giving a convicted murder a platform to try and manipulate evidence that a jury has already heard- and convicted him on the basis of. I found the case interesting but the podcast was quite one sided and gave the impression that they producers felt this man was innocent. Quite uncomfortable. Considering this man was proven to be a manipulate liar in his life before his conviction!

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NOT UK’s answer to serial!

Listened to the whole series as had long drive but I feel this could have been 3-4 episodes. The guest who was a legal expert for wrongly accused is interesting and there’s some good bits but overall not memorable. I think there’s episode recap at the start of each which is annoying if you listen more frequently than every week and I remember a few pauses that are quite long for no reason. The presenters mentioned a few times how very complicated some things were to understand, eg the security footage sequence but then explained it one sentence. Overall it’s ok but nothing really happens.

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Disappointing

I remember the disappearance of Suzanne and I was very interested to listen to this investigation, but I don't think it really brought anything new to the table.

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meh

Felt this was *mega* biased towards Gilroy and honestly a little bit disrespectful towards a family who still have to reckon with their daughter's disappearance and possible death.. I found overall this was a compelling listen but apart from one comment about them not being biased at the start the entire show seemed to be a plea for Gilroy.

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Fascinating

very interesting true life story. I had never heard of this case but it's now very interesting to see it broughthack to light. Cold case? apparently not. Good narration, excellent pace. I still don't know, glad I wasn't on the jury.

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Really good

Loved it don't really go for true crime found it interesting good readers enjoy every minute of it 😊

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Great listen but investigation has a few holes

I was completely hooked but the narrators' investigation left me with as many questions as their commentary of the original investigation and trial! The episodes were well presented and moved at a reasonable pace for me, at least until the last 2 when it slowed considerably. I did feel I wanted more info about the victim to give a better picture of this poor woman as well as their previous relationship. Am I the only one who thinks 50 txts a day in a relationship that is breaking down is worth a discussion in this type of podcast? Also the narrators never asked him about Suzanne Pilley, he never expressed any concern over her whereabouts, sorrow for her death, even if he wasn't responsible but perhaps the podcast didn't have enough space to cover these type of humanising discussions.

It does a good job of highlighting doubts and potential issues in the Scottish justice system and why it is possible that it failed in this case. It assesses the evidence, or lack thereof, in a clear way and show clearly that the conviction is completely based on circumstantial evidence and as a listener I'm left wondering how on earth the defence team didn't win this case, especially since there is a not proven verdict possible.

However, just a simple google revealed things reported that were not even mentioned in the podcast. For example, the car suspension issues were talked about (why on earth was he driving with three broken suspension coils anyway when by admission he could have rearranged the 6-, or in fact 10-, hour drive to get them fixed) but also apparently there was vegetation stuck under the car as well which may have indicated at least some off road driving, depending on how much it was, but it wasn't even addressed in the podcast leaving me leaning towards the fact that it might well have been enough to conclude the car did drive off road, but they didn't want to muddy their message. Added to this there was apparently also a difference in milage indicating the car had driven further than the indicated journey which again was not mentioned in this series. These and numerous other questions were left unasked by the podcast making it feel less than unbiased which I didn't feel about either Serial or the West Cork podcasts which also prompted me to google about during listening.

While the narrators did a good job at keeping me listening they did strike me as slightly naive at certain points and it certainly seemed as if part of the reason they were leaning towards Gilroy's innocence was that he seemed really likeable on the phone. In fact it didn't seem as if they both met him in person, and his statements at certain points also were at least deserving of questioning, as they may have had convincing answers which as a listener we needed to hear. For example, how many air fresheners did he need for his house bathroom? He seems to have bought more than needed (4?) but there may have been a reasonable answer, like multiple bathrooms or a damp smell etc rather than trying to cover the smell of a body. Or why did he ask for a bin bag? Irrelevant of the size of bag he received, I wanted to know why he wanted one during a business meeting to check on an astroturf pitch. I was just left with lots of small things which felt a bit ... odd and many things seemingly taken on faith and took away from the message I felt the podcast was trying to get across that he was probably innocent. Also his statement in an interview that he didn't care what happened to him but wanted his conviction overturned essentially for the good of Scotland really struck me as false.

Nevertheless, I would absolutely recommend it for people who enjoy true crime as I had as much interest in looking for problems with the podcast narrative as I did in the narrative originally suggested by the police and prosecution. Also great free listen with audible membership :]

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This was FREE!!! Excellent, kept me gripped.

All round ace podcast. Can't wait to hear the next collaboration! The production was slick, the reporters really level, the interviews brilliantly guaged.