Children of the Fleet

Reboot? Same old story...

Is there anything you would change about this book?

Everything. Once again there is a brilliant child.. who is superior to all others.. just like ender.. just like bean.. I stopped after 3 hours.. it just felt like Orson Scott Card is trying for a cash grab to start another series. Please finish the 3 you already have going. I've been in the Enderverse since the 80's and this is the first book I really didn't enoy.

Has Children of the Fleet turned you off from other books in this genre?

Pretty much until something pertaining to Ender or Bean or the bug wars is complete

Would you listen to another book narrated by Stefan Rudnicki?

Yes- Love Stefan Rudnicki

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

Nope-- why another cash grab Orson Scott Card? I was so disappointed to the rush job on Ender's game.

Any additional comments?

Skip this book

41 of 43 people found this review helpful

A Real Disappointment

Card's latest offering reads like a not particularly well done young adult book. The plot is simplistic and underdeveloped, and the moral (what's a YA book without a moral?), although admirable enough, is hammered home with such unrelenting repetition as to try the patience of even the youngest reader. Frankly, I was bored. At first I continued reading expecting things to improve. Somewhere around the three-quarters mark I gave up on that. By then the only thing that made this a "page-turner" was my impatience to get to the next book on my list. "Children of the Fleet" is billed as the first of a series. Based on this maiden voyage I fear that from now on the fleet will sail without me.

22 of 23 people found this review helpful

Solid voice acting saves mediocre story.

Fair warning, I'm bitter because Card has been promising us the story of Bean's children and Ender's children meeting for years and this is not that.

One of Orson Scott Card's best strengths in characters is how he builds a story for each person that perfectly explains their actions. He fails to adequately do this with the main protagonist so the whole story falls flat.

10 of 10 people found this review helpful

Orson Scott Card has lost it.

I've been reading this author for decades. This book was a big disappointment. All useless dialog. Very little plot.

15 of 16 people found this review helpful

Unlikable Kids Goes on Boring Adventure

I've worked my way through the whole Ender's series and this is a rare miss. I've never had so much disdain and apathy for a protagonist. Hopefully this is just a stumble and we'll be back on track for the next book, otherwise, it's been a fun journey but time to move on.

11 of 12 people found this review helpful

Pointlessly Repetitive

Same formula
Same place
Different Names

I think they call is " jumping the shark" when they run out of ideas .

4 of 4 people found this review helpful

Same Story, 47th verse.

Would you say that listening to this book was time well-spent? Why or why not?

Since I always listen while doing something else it is difficult to rate the book alone.

If you’ve listened to books by Orson Scott Card before, how does this one compare?

I have listened to pretty much everything OSC has on Audible. His writing is somewhat addictive, but predictable. I'm not sure what kind of childhood OSC enjoyed (or more likely didn't), but his need to continually put per-pubescent boys (and girls) in the staring role of educating adults seems to be obsessive. This one is no different. He evidently feels the need for another Ender Wiggens to take the stage and re-do all the daring do a 10 year old would never actually be able to accomplish. Me thinks OSC is still playing out whatever dynamics he experiences as a kid. I expect this is the first in a series where instead of fighting aliens we'll see a series of harrowing adventures to explore new worlds.

What does Stefan Rudnicki bring to the story that you wouldn’t experience if you just read the book?

I actually got this book because I enjoy listening to Stephan Rudnicki. I fully expected the story to be another rehash of an "Enderish" type adventure - and was correct. Different twists - same story. Stefan's readings are what bring OSC's novels alive.

If this book were a movie would you go see it?

If Ben Kingsley still had a role!

4 of 4 people found this review helpful

Not Ender's Game (yawn)

First off, this full cast of narrators is ridiculous. It is absurd to have the same character voiced by different narrators, which is what we get here. Most of the time Stefan Rudnicki is the reader, and he does a fine job. Then for no appreciable reason, some chapters are read by a lady. So here you have the main character, Dabeet, voiced by both a man and a woman. It ends up being confusing, distracting, and annoying. You will notice a couple other voices appearing once perhaps, but a total of 8 distinct narrators? No, you will not be able to tell that there were that many different voices, so why have them?

Then there's the story. Battle School is not needed anymore since there's no enemy. Fleet School is designed to create explorers and colonizers. The students there are the offspring of the Battle School kids who no longer fit in on Earth. They are not necessarily smarter or more clever than anyone else. The only box to tick on the application is lineage. Dabeet is a genius of uncertain parentage who gets in because he floods the system with applications and pleas for admission. He has no friends because he is so smart that he is arrogant and obnoxious. The other main characters are his mother, General Graff, 2 women in charge at Fleet School, and the students at Fleet School. In order to prove how smart Dabeet and these kids are, we have to plod through every single micro-thought just to illustrate that we normals could never produce such scintillating trains of thought nor make the conclusions they do. Ideas that take a split second to think are dragged out for long tedious minutes of self-satisfied conversation.

The characters are thin and uninteresting. The only sparkle is a few references to Bean and Achilles, and of course, Ender. Some chapters are dull eye-rolling convos between General Graff and... um... actually, no idea who he is talking to.

There are 2, count 'em, 2 scenes that should have been exciting--a kidnapping and a space explosion. They were not exciting. It's all just boring. Seven hours into this 11-hour book, when Achilles is first mentioned, there's a moment you think things are going to turn exciting, but wait, uh no.

Ender Wiggin had to build a cohesive fighting team to beat the Formics. He had to overcome his size, his test scores, and the existing power order. Dabeet Ochoa is supposed to learn the qualities of a leader, in order to hopefully develop them, but instead he has to learn the kindergarden stuff-- how to work well with others, how to share, how to appreciate other people's contributions, all while learning how to not be a jerk (that's the polite word) about it. But these character developments are not fleshed out; we have no investment in being there. It's not interesting. It's not exciting.

There's a big reveal at the end that you figure out in the beginning, so even that's a yawn.

Presumably, this is the first in a series of The Next Generation where Dabeet has magically learned to be a team player and a leader. Card will have to seriously up his Game to make them relatable, enjoyable, or anywhere near exciting.

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33 of 39 people found this review helpful

Pleasant read

Tho not as exciting as the shadow series not prequel form if war series this is very comparable to well Enders game. Written for a middle school and up group, this book keeps adding information to the Ender Universe.
Thank you and please more!!!!

2 of 2 people found this review helpful

Verbose space-drama

Extended, tedious logic discussions, either leading to support or exposing a new problem to go about.

1 of 1 people found this review helpful