In Dhalgren, perhaps one of the most profound and best-selling science fiction novels of all time, Samuel R. Delany has produced a novel that rivals the best American fiction of the 1970s.
Bellona is a city at the dead center of the United States. Something has happened there...the population has fled. Madmen and criminals wander the streets. Strange portents appear in the cloud-covered sky. And into this disaster zone comes a young man - a poet, a lover, and an adventurer - known only as the Kid.
Tackling questions of race, gender, and sexuality, Dhalgren is a literary marvel and a groundbreaking work of American magical realism.
©1975 Samuel R. Delany (P)2016 Blackstone Audio, Inc.
I bought this based on the narrator as I love his work. I shouldn't really have, as it is Sci-Fi, and I just don't get that genre.
A young man named Kid appears in a new city which has been hit by an appocolypse or something. He gradually makes his way to leader of the Scorpions, a wreckless young gang not unlike Bill Sykes' in Oliver Twist.
It felt as if you were dropped into a trilogy and had missed the important introductions and necessary information. For example an orchid was some sort of weapon and there was some significance to having beads around your neck - it was never really explained, or maybe I just didn't get it, that's quite possible.
"Yeasayers say yes. Naysayers say no."
Yes. It is experimental literature that has worn the test of time. If we shall fall for the fallacy of credentialism, Umberto Eco, Theodore Sturgeon, David Bowie, endorse this delicate fragile, imperfect yet bold unabashed and honest work.If it ain't for you then you don't have a place in Bellona.Go somewhere else.As for the rest of us, you are welcome here.Look, you'll know right away if this is not for you. Don't expect anything from Dhalgren. It is more suggestive than expressive. If you expect anything, be prepared for disappointment.However, if you take it as it comes, if you say yes, you are in for a treat. This is something unlike anything that came before it.
Sex with trees, the banality of prose. The beauty of it.
His deep cadence plays well with the essence of this peculiar and noteworth work..
What you see is incomparable to what you think.
This is a landmark work that while imperfect, its contrivances suggests so much it must not be overlooked.All you have to do it let it.
"An enduring classic or the Emperor's new clothes?"
Dhalgren is one of those books where I was left wondering if it was a “literary marvel and a groundbreaking work of American magical realism.” or a literary version of the emperor’s new clothes. Based on hundreds of glowing reviews and its placement high on most must-read sci-fi lists, there are many who believe this is a classic. One reader in my discussion group said “It's enough to me that odd and interesting events happen, characters have interesting conversations/insights, and there are occasional hot sex scenes.”
I’m not so sure.
Weighing in at over 800 pages, much of what happens takes place in Bellona, a city devastated by some unknown calamity and follows the wanderings, adventures, discussions and passionate encounters of a homeless young man who cannot remember his name and assumes the moniker Kidd, or Kid depending where you are in the book. While Bellona and the people Kidd encounters are interesting, the book is essentially plotless with Delaney teasing readers frequently with inexplicable events and possibly profound insights that flutter just outside of the reader’s understanding.
Written in the mid-1970s , Dhalgren shares the aimlessness and lack of purpose that permeated that decade between the sexual revolution and the AIDS epidemic, when physical passion replaced the passion engendered by a sense of purpose. The conversations about such still-debated topics as race, gender and sexuality may have been groundbreaking and original when written but now seem to be shallow and selfish. Maybe the most profound thing Delaney says is his statement on page 685 that “balling a couple of dozen people in one night is merely a prerequisite for understanding anything worth knowing.”
William Gibson was known to say that Dhalgren is a riddle never meant to be solved. Maybe it is, like Russia, a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma. Or maybe, like several of the denizens of Bellona, the Emperor has no clothes. Who’s to say?
"Not for casual readers"
Samuel R Delany's Sci-Fi books are great. However Dhalgren is not really a sci-fi book. It is an exploration of experimental prose and poetry. Don't get me wrong, there are moments of genius in the chaos.
There are a handful of powerful scenes in the book that are highly realistic. In fact, it is believed that some of the content has been adapted from Delany's own personal experiences. This would not be surprising.The weakest aspect of Dhalgren is it's length. If the book was cut in half, it would be more mainstream.
Overall Dhalgren is worth your time if you are a general lover of the written word, who is looking for something a little bit different, maybe even slightly insane.
"A classic I return to every few years"
I am required to go back to this book every few years. The first book by Delany I ever read was Babel-17 when I was in high school. I enjoyed it. I and several high school friends also read Einstein Intersection and were blown away. One step closer to fanboy. Shortly after high school it seemed like every time I went to the drug store or supermarket the book rack had a copy of Dhalgren. This gigantic book with a strange cover. I finally broke down and bought it and was immediately hooked.
It’s interesting coming back to the book after several years. The book is overtly sexual. And not just sexual but polyamorous with what ends up being a threesome among the main character Kidd, a woman named Lanya, and a gang member named Denny. I think that was a partial draw, but the book in general with its setting in a mysterious city of Bellona and the odd interaction in the entire city kept me sailing through what, at that time, was the longest book I’d ever read.
It’s important to state that the book makes no real sense. It’s as psychedelic a book as you might get from the era (it was first published in 1975). I worried that I might be missing something or was too dense to understand some subtext. I was relieved, then, that the latest edition I read included an introduction by William Gibson, no illiterate regarding science fiction, in which he said that as much as he loved the book he didn’t understand it. The book is an enigma, It has a plot, carries along that plot. But what happened in Bellona? No one knows. It’s a city with its own individual apocalypse that doesn’t seemed to have gone beyond the city’s borders. The inhabitants are drawn from different places as if the city demanded their presence. They also seem to have difficulty leaving, or at least of finding their way out. Within the city limits there are codes but no laws. People scrounge for food but no one goes hungry. It’s a dangerous place and yet there’s a newspaper, a higher society, and some semblance of being a city but with no true government. Sexuality is casual and random, but Kidd’s threesome has familial affection for each other.
Kidd is a mystery throughout the book. Arriving in the city with amnesia after an apparent stay in a mental hospital. He finds a partially filled notebook and begins writing poetry on the blank pages. Almost as suddenly he stops writing but a book of his poems manages to get published. He takes work with a family in which the wife, at least, seems to be in denial about what’s happening around her, trying to live a normal life despite the strange noises outside her apartment. Even the name of the book is a mystery, with one fleeting reference to a man with the surname Dhalgren on a list of names.
After finishing the book I became a Delany addict, tearing through all the books I could find. (I’ve seen similar obsessions with Frank Herbert fans.) But I don’t think until I read Aye, and Gomorrah: And Other Stories that I got a grip about what I loved in Delany and sought out in other science fiction or fiction in general: a sense of freedom and a traveler’s eye. I don’t think one really understands their surroundings until they leave them for awhile. And while travelling or experiencing another country (or another world) one gets perspective on what has been so entwined with you that it becomes invisible. The new world, too, seems brighter. Every small detail has meaning and consequence that have been lost in the things you leave behind. This is wonder. This is magic. Delany’s writings have that sense of wonder and magic while still managing to have taken on some of the deeper themes in literature.
"Gotta start checking other's reviews"
I considered that, surely, the book can't be as bad as some harsh critics claimed. The book has been around for 40+ years and still manages to find it's way into print so, even though it has limited success, there's definitely an audience for it and I can appreciate it.
But, no. Dhalgren is not mainstream and is obscure for a reason. It is convoluted and rambling and reeks of 60s era drug-addled counter-culture. Any attempt at intelligence is purely coincidental.
"The Human Story Always Captures the Reader"
I find the depth of character emersive. The level of detail is astounding. One could make a movie, but you would lose the ordinary motovations of the characters. I'm not keen on the perverse as sodomy pervades the book. I think it provides a bleak normal the characters must accept to stay alive since sodomy appears to be a currency as does sex. Most stories have people running away from their bad circumstances, but these young people appear more willing to adapt to it. One has to wonder what has happened to the rest of the world. Dalgren is a deeper look into people than Ben Bova's "City of Darkness", which I enjoyed grearly. I'm sure I wil listen again!
Most disappointing book I have heard/read in a long time. I tried but half way thru the book I had to give up and jump to last chapter. It plodded along with more focus on words to paint a picture of the world but never really developed characters I could relate to or even like or dislike. Sex seemed placed in the book as a distraction and added very little ro story line.
Make better characters, develop them and don't let them wander.
It was good and I have enjoyed him on other books.
"This should be in Gay Erotica (not my cup of tea)"
This is NOT Science Fiction Fantasy
Place this in a different section and change the description
This seems like free verse not really a story Pages of description on walking, thinking, singing to one's selfNot description to draw one into the story or to build suspenseJust inane babbling trying to be deep and meaningful with out having anything to say
Stefan Rudnicki’s performance is fine - Great he can read all of this with out walking out
Is this a failed poet turned writer, that forgot to plan out a story line before starting writing // was he paid by the word???
Skip This Book - and hope publishers back better writers in the future
Read good writer like Brandon Sanderson
"There's a reason for no reviews"
To being the amount of patience required to finish this book is almost more then I was capable of.
There are severe gaps in the story life, if at all it can be called a story line. I almost hope audible made a huge error while having this recorded, it says 108 hours but downloads as 34. I contacted audible prior to listening and was assured it's only 34 hours. Aside from some good sex scenes and interesting concepts, this book is a disgrace if literally work. As a lover of almost all books, this pains me to say but I feel people should be warned.
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