History, for all its facts and figures, names and dates, is ultimately subjective. You learn the points of view your teachers provide, the perspectives that books offer, and the conclusions you draw yourself based on the facts you were given. Hearing different angles on historical events gives you a more insightful, accurate, and rewarding understanding of events - especially when a new viewpoint challenges the story you thought you knew.
Now the Great Courses has partnered with Smithsonian to bring you a course that will greatly expand your understanding of American history. This course, Native Peoples of North America, pairs the unmatched resources and expertise of the Smithsonian's National Museum of the American Indian with the unparalleled knowledge of Professor Daniel M. Cobb of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to provide a multidisciplinary view of American history, revealing new perspectives on the historical and contemporary experiences of indigenous peoples and their impact on the history of our country.
This insightful and unique 24-lecture course helps disprove myths and stereotypes that many people take as fact. Professor Cobb presents a different account of the Seven Years' War, the American Revolution, the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Gold Rush, the Transcontinental Railroad, and beyond, providing the stories of the American Indian people who fought and negotiated to preserve their ancestral lands.
Native Peoples of North America recounts an epic story of resistance and accommodation, persistence and adaption, extraordinary hardship and survival across more than 500 years of colonial encounter. As the Smithsonian curators stated, "The past never changes. But the way we understand it, learn about it, and know about it changes all the time." Be prepared - this course is going to change how you understand American history. And no matter how much you know about this subject, you will be surprised.
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it is a very detailed description of interactions between the United States and Native people. Its focus is very much on this interaction. There is very little on pre contact life.
It does have a very strong pro native bias, making it feel a bit like a Soviet history of Russia. Every time there is any conflict of any kind between Native people and the US Professor Cobb states the Indians were unequivocally in the right, which does get a bit repetitive.
"Worthwhile, but frustrating"
The last half of the course is much better than the first, since it recounts more recent history and Native Americans are allowed to speak for themselves through their writings. In the first half, Prof. Cobb too frequently ascribes thoughts, feelings and intentions to Native historical figures who left no records on which to base such conclusions. In Lecture 4, for example, he somehow intuits Matoaka’s motives in assisting the Virginia colony, and divines that her actions were orchestrated by her father, Powhatan. No evidence is cited to support this interpretation of events, and the PDF Course Guide contains no documentation other than a thin suggested reading list. Prof. Cobb may be right, but it would be nice if readers could somehow follow the path which led him to his often revisionist view of history.
"Needs more history, less preaching"
I would have liked if this had been more of a straight historical lesson and less of a political polemic. The times when he covered legitimate history were interesting, but he spends way too much time pontificating. For example, if he wants to rename "Pontiac's War," fine. But he insisted on referring to it every single time as "The War Called Pontiac's" or "The so-called Pontiac's War." It would be like listening to a Southerner give a talk about the civil war where he called it "The War of Northern Aggression" every time and never used the common term "Civil War." If I had known this was not a history of the Native Peoples of North America, but rather a political polemic and over the top attempt at historical revisionism, I would not have bought it. Kindly make that more clear in the description.
"Needs To Be Re-Thought"
Gets off to a bad start with a homily insinuating that many of the things we take for granted today are actually the result of Native American contact with the Europeans. Of course, if one has chosen to listen to this course, it is because he or she already has a bit of an inkling of the Native American perspective being overlooked. This would be fine except that the preaching continues at least throughout the next 2/3rds of the course (I haven't made it to the last third yet). In every instance, the noble Native Americans are taken advantage of by the wily Europeans. Which probably is the case. However, when a teacher takes a side in the history course, portraying their favored side as the only one you should have any sympathy for, then it is hard to trust that this retelling of history is valid.
One of the greatest crimes in history-telling is presuming that you are supposed to cheer for one side over another. History is a complicated thing, made more complex by the morales of the time. Progressives of one time were not as progressive as those of today, but to blame them for this supposed short-sightedness is rather snobbish (as the professor does whenever a European steps forward to try to be a good samaritan to the Native Peoples.)
A more useful and respectful history of the Native People would be to not romanticize them as a people who meant no harm and got run over by greedy Europeans, but to recognize that this was a culture clash in which both cultures had their reasons for seeing the world as they saw it, and this is just the way it was. Europe, for instance, happened to have developed technologies and materials the Peoples of the Americas did not have, and along with these Powers came vices, as they always do. And to presume that Native Americans, had they had the same or greater technologies than Europe, would not have done something similar to Europe, had the shoe been on the other foot, is an impossible thing to argue. It's a blind argument with no fair answer. If the Native Americans had had the same awesome military technology as the Europeans and yet chose to withhold it in the name of Peace, then you could perhaps fairly take sides in history and say, "Look what awful things happened to this culture." But, as the professor shows, the Native People also had their wars, and even though he goes on to put a positive spin on their wars (with the Orwellian spin that the Native American wars against each other weren't destructive but constructive because they sought to replenish their own tribe with prisoners), it doesn't take away from the bigger question: If Native Americans had developed the kind of technology that the Europeans had, would they have suffered from the same vices? And in the absence of these technologies, military or otherwise (read Guns, Germs, and Steel if you're interested in this subject) to tempt them to conquer, does it really mean they were always the good guys no matter what the instance?
As always, even mis-performed history has its lessons to teach, and there are a few nuggets here and there, but one comes away with a scattershot history of the Native People. I came him hoping to get a taste of what daily life was like and what a year amongst them would entail, but mostly we're given a vague representation of how life was in America with the Native People and almost no sense that there was any dissension or disagreement among them. When there is, we're given the impression that its only because the Europeans have forced a wedge between them.
All in all, there has got to be a better history of the Native People out there, somehow somewhere. Though there seem to be no written sources (since the Native People didn't develop a written word until the supposedly evil Europeans came up with a system in order to trick them into preserving the beautiful history) :) -- one would hope there would be a way to put together a day in the life of the native people, flaws and all.
"great info but poorly read really annoying cadence"
hard to listen to because of terrible narration
really annoying cadence
better if narrated by someone else
"Excellent Native Historical Perspective"
I have lifelong friends who are reservation Indians. This is their story. The lectures are well organized and well delivered.
"Like a priest giving a poor homily"
This is to be a college level course I think. I'm barely into it and am asleep in my car. Be careful if you see me coming. Try this then try 1066: The year that changed everything. One about America. One about England. See which class you would pay to take. Back to sleep now
"Could be much better"
I find the presentation to be very poor. I prefer to be spoken to, rather than laboriously read to. The reading was slow, pedantic, and boring, not to mention poorly edited. Everyone makes mistakes while speaking or reading, but surely the mistakes could be edited out, especially as the narrator went right back to his script. I found myself wondering who the presentation was written for, as surely university level students do not have to have the Cold War explained to them. I was hoping for more information on who the various tribes were/are, rather than having them presented as monolithic and with all beliefs and cultures mashed together as if there were no differences among them. More anthropology and less blaming would be welcome.
"Social Justice Jamboree"
I'm a huge fan of the Great Courses, and have quite a few in my Audible library. Most of the time they are informative, illuminating, and go into great detail about the subject at hand. This one, however, was light on the actual knowledge and substance that makes this series so great, and instead, focused on "redefining the narrative" of the history of Native Americans.There is no doubt that Native Americans have experienced numerous travesties (often horrific ones) at the hands of outsiders and between themselves, and those should be articulated and expressed in the history books. However, any historian should take note to remain objective as possible while describing these historical events. It is clear by the poignant and biased language of the author that he has a clear agenda of portraying Europeans in a particular way in order to justify his redefinition of the cultural narratives around this subject. At the same time, the author tends to put Native American cultures on a pedestal, and romanticizes certain aspects of their culture.
The Great Courses are usually amazing, just this one was highly politicized and came with a good amount of agenda. I was expecting a history of the native Americans beginning with the trek out of Asia, over the Bering straight, and into the Americas, and then moving through history, while addressing their culture. Instead, the author focuses on the arrival of Europeans and the evils they brought with them to the new world.
Look for another Great Course to download
Only covers Native American history from European contact to present. There is a lot more history of Native Americans than just when white people came to America. Is not a good summary of Native Americans
"I have been looking for this kind of "information""
Excellent. Much much more than I could have hoped for. Have gained many new perspectives, and yes, I will be spending more time learning. I will return to listen to these lectures again and will share them with my friends. Thank You.
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