©1989 Neil Sheehan; (P)2009 Random House
"If there is one book that captures the Vietnam war in the sheer Homeric scale of its passion and folly, this is it." (The New York Times Book Review)
This is an important audiobook to listen to if you have any interest in the Vietnam War. Robertson Dean read it excellently, as usual, with only a couple of mispronunciations (primmer instead of primer and other trivial errors).
John Vann was THE Vietnam expert, and the book also exposes what drove him and his difficult childhood.
Scandanavian and other crime fiction reader with a particular love of a good serial killer novel. Contemporary literature also read.
A real eye opener to the incompetence of the American military machine, its leaders, men and President. The lies told to justify the war, the collusion of the media in the lie and peoples blind acceptance of the lie. The war crimes committed by Americans and the use of chemical weapons on civilians.. A disgrace from start to the humiliation for America at the end. A must read to understand Americas military mind set, even now.
I was looking for a decent primer on the war ahead of a trip to Vietnam and was willing to endure a bit of bio about a guy I had never heard of, but I was blown away by Neil Sheehan's admiration of the man.
By the end, I understood why it was subtitled John Paul Vann and America in Vietnam.
I had also never heard of Neil Sheehan, and was pleasantly surprised to discover he was the journalist who obtained the Pentagon Papers, and that Daniel Ellsberg (who I had heard of) has a key supporting role in the book.
Sheehan's decision to focus the war through the lens of fairly obscure (today, at least) player, rather than say a president or top general, gives a real down-in-the-dirt perspective.
One of the best and most rewarding audiobooks I've bought. I may give it another spin before I head to Vietnam.
I loved the rather peripheral retelling of the Double Seven Day scuffle, a punch up between journalists covering a Buddhist protest in Siagon in 1963 and ostensibly friendly South Vietnamese police, particularly the intervention of the apparently terrifying but highly principled New York Times reporter David Halberstam.
Sheehan has provided the best overview of the ground war in Vietnam that I have come across.
He parallels the adrenaline fuelled life of the daring lieutenant colonel John Paul Vann with a well researched and highly detailed overview of the war. The book concentrates mainly on the efforts on the ground yet also manages to provide an accurate background and covers most of the other key events that happened throughout the war.
How the military and political establishments deluded themselves as to how the war was being fought and the implications of their delusion.
No specific moment, the whole peice is well done and equally enjoyable.
No, too long for one sitting.
As well as the story of John Vann's life this book gives a brilliant and easily listened to history of the lead up (with French occupation) and eventual American involvement in the Vietnam War. What a waste of life on both sides and very different to the Hollywood version of events!
I read this book 10 years ago and listening to it recently gave further insights into the story.
Learning about the history behind the Vietnam war was eye opening a really good audible book.
Learning how corrupt the South Vietnamese government was, and how they led their own country into revolution.
Pace, style, a very good and easy to listen to voice.
Couldn't as it is so long, but very good.
purchase the book!
"Good inside view of the making of the Vietnam War"
Loved this account of both the ugly and the heroic men and decisions that shaped the policy in Vietnam, and what led to its final doom. I very much enjoyed how Sheehan showed Vann as an imperfect man with good intentions. A little long in parts, but well worth it.
"Probably better as a hardcover read"
I certainly learned a lot about the Vietnam War through this book, but I found its focus on one person—John Paul Vann—a bit constricting. I constantly wanted to know more about the larger scope of the war, what was happening back in the US at the time, what was on the minds of the President, Congress, etc. For the reader who is already very familiar with the overall war, this is probably an excellent book, but for me it was just so-so.
[I listened to this as an audio book read by Robertson Dean. This VERY LONG book (35 hours) was not an easy listen. The performer speaks quite slowly; I would recommend listening at 1.25 speed. But also the nature of the book, which goes back and forth in time and references myriad unfamiliar places and people made it hard to follow. Probably better as a hard-cover read.]
"Deeply profound and insightful"
Neil Sheehan’s work “A Bright Shining Lie” is a deeply profound and insightful biography of the people and events that drew the U.S. into the national morass of Vietnam. His detailed references to the painful truths ignored by the highest levels of military leadership documents the many fantasies associated with the strategic thinking of American military planners during the 1962 to 1963 period.
By means of the author’s descriptive reporting, the reader, or as in my case, the listener, can envision the very personal reality of living through circumstances that are beyond one’s capacity to imagine as being possible! One learns what can only be realized through first hand experience as the author enables you to fully grasp the amazing insiders story of the coup d’etat initiated by President John F.Kennedy against Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam.
This special work weaves together the Who, What,, When, Where and Why of America’s ill fated involvement in Vietnam.
The historical accuracy of the author’s reporting will grab you by the belt and challenge every instinct of common sense you can muster!
His step by step accounting of the insertion of U.S. ground troops into the fight to salvage the wishful hopes of American political and military leaders abruptly ends, and the author goes back in time, to illustrate the life and harsh upbringing of John Paul Vann under difficult family circumstances. This biographical sketch carefully traces John Paul Vann’s journey into manhood, his new life as a family man while in the Army, and elaborates on the culture of the era.
The Korean War lurches John Paul Vann into the deadly arena of wholesale slaughter. The author elaborates on the willful lack of objectivity of American political leadership, and the horrific consequences this incompetence had on U.S. combat forces. Family matters of a medical nature extracted John Vann from further combat early in the War and facilitated his return, against his wishes, to the U.S. with his family. Once again, the author highlights the personal journey of John Vann, emphasizing his pretense of a mature relational morality and the deliberate neglect of his family. Fundamentally, John Vann lacked the emotional instincts of a family man. His own interests led him back to Vietnam, where the environment of the fight fits the zeitgeist of his own constitution.
In this contentious environment, the author refers to the “corruption and parasitic nature” of Saigon itself; “a malignancy that poisoned the entire system of government.” As the author states, “a vacuum of leadership, and a confrontation were the circumstances in which he, ”John Vann, “thrived.”
The author then adds his view that Vietnamese communism was about Nationalism and to a government not obliged to serve the interests of the U.S. This sense of Nationalism was opposed to the Americanizing of the Vietnamese culture and its politics.
Being in the field, with the people, in the middle of the conflict, was JohnVann’s niche in Vietnam. From this vantage point, John Vann developed his theory of “harnessing the revolution”, an idea which drew upon the fragile control of the Viet Cong over the population and the very real and deep seated contempt and resentment the people had for the corrupt Saigon government and the abuse they experienced from the Army of South Vietnam(ARVN). The author weaves together the frank exchange of ideas between John Vann and top military and civilian leaders responsible to policy makers in Washington.
The author provides a detailed account of how and why recommendations for new forms of social and political leadership to win over the people of South Vietnam in order to gain their support of an American sponsored government were arbitrarily dismissed by top U.S. commanders. As interesting, and revelatory, as this accounting was, it pales in comparison to the author’s skillful conveyance of real life events in a manner that transports you directly into the scene of the action. He describes a series of intriguing and deadly ambushes motivated by causal factors, which were creating the war. So compelling were the scenes being described that one could feel the sense of terror being experienced by the human targets of these assaults.
What then followed was the horrifying encounter of the 1st Battalion, 7th Cavalry, 1st Air Cavalry with the North Vietnamese 33rd Regiment in the Ia Drang Valley on November 14, 1965; a battle that should have been a reality check for President Lyndon Johnson and Robert McNamara, the Secretary of Defense. The hard fought battles that followed could have persuaded the President that there was ample evidence to reassess the assumptions of his political and military leadership councils. The “war of attrition” was just getting started. Big Time.
The industry, institutions, and infrastructure associated with the buildup of U.S. military forces in South Vietnam was massive. The enormous scale of the American mega involvement in South Vietnam transformed Vietnamese society into an alien Amerasian hybrid. The rich Asian culture was being buried under layers of corruption generated by American aid and assistance.
The author provides numerous examples of the parasitic nature of the Saigon government having tentacles extending throughout South Vietnam; the graft affecting every aspect of government activity, reaching all the way down to the local level.
In the military arena, the incredible battles against the jungle forts around Khe Sanh in April and May 1967 reminded Marine General Lew Walt of the fighting at Peleliu in 1944, where the Marines fought against the Japanese in steel reinforced concrete bunkers and rock caves in the hillsides of the Pacific Islands during WW II.
“The Vietnamese communists wanted violent, close quarters combat because it tended to diminish the effectiveness of air and artillery”, warned Marine General Krulak. The author’s description of these battles is breathtaking.
Referring to the regions where major battles had taken place, the author states that “Westmoreland had convenienced his enemy.” The areas in which U.S. lives were lost tell this story.
In his desire to fight a war of attrition, General William Westmoreland was fighting the enemy’s war. The North Vietnamese gave him the opportunity he had hoped for; to commit large unit forces to an all out war.
A series of studies done by associates of Robert McNamara showed that the Viet Cong and the North Vietnam Army ( N.V.A. ) initiated fighting with the Americans more than 80% of the time, on a battlefield that surprised the U.S. forces more than 85% of the time.
In May of 1967, Robert McNamara gave LBJ a memorandum that stated: “The President could not win the war in Vietnam and ought to negotiate an unfavorable peace.”
North Vietnam’s military Commander in Chief General Vo Nguyen Giap writes an article published in Military People’s Daily in September 1967 elaborating on his strategy to deploy N.V.A. troops to the border areas of South Vietnam to maximize the natural advantage of the camouflage offered by the jungle forests and to draw U.S. ground troops into the meat grinder of the jungle battlefield.
The C.I.A. obtains a copy of this article and broadcasts it on radio via “Foreign Broadcasting Information Services.”
The second battle for Khe Sanh, located in the far northwest corner of South Vietnam begins in mid January of 1968. “It was a ruse” to deceive General William Westmoreland. On January 31, 1968, the assault of communist forces begins throughout South Vietnam.
The Tet Offensive of 1968 alerts the American public to the very serious military situation occurring in South Vietnam. The public now realized what the Johnson Administration did not want it to know.
“Americans watched the country they were supposed to be rescuing being burned down and blown apart on television, in color.” Neil Sheehan
A very insightful strategic assessment by John Vann was elaborated upon by the author. The numerous casualties incurred by the Viet Cong, and the extensive relocation of refugees from the countryside to the ballooning cities changed the conditions of the war. The “Vietnamization” of the war was to be initiated in earnest by newly elected President Richard Nixon. “It’s your policy”, Henry Kissinger, Secretary of State, told Vann “in an exaggerated compliment.”
The peace talks between the United States and the North Vietnamese began in January 1969. The war rumbled on.
Battle plans and actual battles are carefully described in detail as events in the war unfolded. The complex battlefield strategies of the N.V.A. are sketched out in the effect their assault had on the ARVN. The time had come for the Army of the South to confront the Army of the North. The ARVN collapsed. Chaos ensued. The descriptions are horrific. Wave after wave of B-52 strikes blunted the tip and broke the shaft of the N.V.A. spearhead into the South.
Having secured the victory of stopping the invasion from the North, and knowing he had helped those that he recognized as needing his help the most, John Paul Vann was in a celebratory mood.
On June 9, 1972, this man of valor is thrown from his helicopter in a fiery crash. His body, laying broken, but not burnt, amongst the graves of Montagnard dead in a communal burial site on the edge of a hamlet; carved wooden figures nearby “staring into space”.
“The Paris Agreement of January 1973 removed the advisors and the residual U.S. military forces propping up the Saigon side, while leaving the NVA in the South to finish its task.” Neil Sheehan
So many people and events, and the complex circumstances associated with them, are referred to, written about, and described in this real life narrative that it is impossible to fully comprehend the role each had played in the overall involvement of the American war in Vietnam.
History demonstrates that the Eisenhower Administration used the ideological competition between the two super powers during the period of the Cold War to justify turning the southern territories of Vietnam into a new national state. This redefinition of foreign lands as an independent state obligated the U.S. to defend its borders. The military prestige of the U.S. would now be determined by future military events.
The Officers who had fought so bravely to win WWII, now top Generals commanding the world’s most powerful Army, Air Force and Navy, could not bring themselves to imagine that the militarily frail Vietnamese insurgency, called the Viet Minh, could ever amount to more than a brush fire. The certainty of U.S. dominance was to be taken for granted.
President Eisenhower had Ngo Dinh Diem established as President of this new U.S. Protectorate, South Vietnam. The Army of South Vietnam was funded, trained, equipped, and advised by the U.S. When they needed weaponry, they received it, i.e. artillery, helicopters, armored personnel carriers, airplanes, coastal defense, etc. America would determine the fate of this new nation.
This new military adventure into Southeast Asia was, American leaders were convinced, sure to be a small demonstration of the superiority of American power on the world stage.
The big move into the big war was initiated by President Lyndon Baines Johnson.
The adverse conditions that prevented the people of Vietnam from realizing the security they needed to assure them of their personal protection persisted throughout the war and were, in many cases, actually aggravated by what the U.S. command was willing to do. The unobserved firing of artillery into the countryside, for example, was something that Vann argued should be stopped.
The wholesale corruption of the Saigon regime interfered with the availability of goods and services, often accessible only to those already in privileged positions.
These conditions were not those that the American military command wanted to confront, or acknowledge as having a serious detrimental impact on the rejuvenation of a society in the midst of a social revolution.
If this war was to be fought by Americans, it would be won or lost in the arena of combat.
Fighting the communists on a military battlefield proved to be more alluring than confronting government corruption on the political battlefield.
The Viet Cong had other ideas. They were willing to become the masters of their own destiny.
This monumental work was read by Robertson Dean, courtesy of Audible Books. The author’s exemplary effort to contribute to the full story of the American intervention into Vietnam was complimented by Mr. Dean’s communicative acumen. His reading was engaging and persuasive, capturing the imagination with an enthusiastic vigor and a serious sense of concern for the historic importance of the author’s accounting. I was absorbed, once again, into the experience of being there.
(Review by Dennis Berlin)
"Astounding that this was brought out"
So often, audiobook availability is determined by current publisher concerns, i.e. to boost the initial sales of new books. Here is a book that came out back in the late 1980s, one of the masterpieces of nonfiction written about the Vietnam War, and not a short masterpiece, either! Perhaps some professors somewhere assign this book in class, though I doubt it, because the book is 900 pages long. Apart from that, sales must surely be sporadic. Whoever had the idea to produce this, presumably a service to history as much as a commercial decision, merits the appreciation of any audiobook reader interested in the history of the second half of the 20th century.
Yes. Slow at first but eventually riveting history. If you want to understand the mess in Vietnam this book tells the story from it's beginning in the early 1960's to the deplorable ending.
John Paul Vann.
Yes. He does a fine job as usual but mispronounces many of the Vietnamese towns and words.
A Bright Shining Lie. After listening to the book you will understand the title has multiple meanings and fits the book perfectly.
Neil Sheehan put his soul into this book and the Pulitzer Prize this masterpiece won was deserved. It took him eighteen years to write the book and should be read by any American citizen with an interest in the Vietnam war.
"Worthy of the Pulitzer Prize, Great Listen"
If you desire to know more about what really happened in Vietnam before and during the war, I give this book the highest recommendation. I doubt you'll find more than a handful of other Vietnam War-related works that are as brutally honest and well-written while showing the human side of the conflict so clearly.
It is clear why Sheehan won the Pulitzer Prize for this book in 1989. He illuminates the complex, flawed and heroic character of John Vann in a manner that will make you sad about his childhood and angry his emotional/physical vacancy as a husband and father. At the same time, Sheehan is masterful in creating an overview of important events, policy positions, battles, etc. without getting mired down in too many details or verbose explanations.
Many people nowadays aren't familiar with John Vann, but he spent many years in Vietnam as a military advisor, officer and high-level civilian official. He understood how the US could possibly "win the war," and sacrificed his meteoric military career trying to persuade the military and executive leadership to listen to reason and prosecute the war differently.
While listening to this book, I found myself laughing out loud from incredulity at all of the foolhardy actions America took before and during the Vietnam War. For example, the US supplied nearly 100% of the arms and ammunition used by the Vietcong and North Vietnamese Army up to the time the Chinese/Soviets got involved. No conspiracy here, people; just tragic stupidity.
"A Bright, Shining Lie" delivers a masterful summary of how the United States ended up in Vietnam, allowed American hubris to guide a vicious cycle of poor decision-making and cost America so dearly during and after the war despite one man's attempts to do the right thing for the people of Vietnam and the US.
"Military reading list eye opener."
another narrative on how history is so often doomed to repeat itself. Conventional military Concepts just don't cut it in small Wars.
fascinating tale of a man of an era of a war that is all too tragic. well-researched well-written a worthy read. relevant history as it reflects so much on the world today and misguided foreign policy.
This opus magnus of Neil Sheehan tells the tragic tale of American hubris that was the American experience in Vietnam, as crystalized in John Paul Vann. Much of it is masterfully told, while a a few segments could have edited out (particularly some of family backstory.) Even so, no other book on Vietnam is as devestating honest about the American folly there.
"A tale of a man and Vietnam"
Great story told through the life of a very talented but flawed man in Vietnam.
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